Garret and K04

[noone]

I don't know much about ECU tuning, but given all the variables of one turbo to another, I'd be doing A LOT of research before expecting a tune to work with a different turbo and not have negative (if not catastrophic) results.

Be aware, that the extra power devived with a different turbo could severely effect the life of your:
- engine
- gearbox
- clutch

Just to name a few...

Also, to get much more power than you already have, you're likely to need a better: Fuel pump, manifold, intake system, exhaust.

Sorry if I'm repeating what you already know or someone else has already said.


Few relevant links for you:::
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[tommymac]

its all good mate.

Yer i have done a **** load of research,

You CAN run a GT28rs (stock internals) with the right tune, you just have to run the correct timing and watch the fueling to avoid a "leg out of bed"

Engines all good its only got 35k

Clutch is a race spec and thats all good

Gearbox is a concern but hey, we all want a 02a with a peloquin at some stage don't we!

i have a front mount, etc etc, injectors won't be an issue and I already have a 2.5 exhaust turbo back, with a surge tank and 044 to be installed soonish.

so its all good

tar for the sites I frequent them a fair bit already, oh and if anything above fails ill just have to fix it!

[VWindahouse]

Sorry mate not sure what car you have but these guys in the states make some great Garrett kits for a great price and the AUD is on the up and up

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...ory_Code=VVWTK

Hope this helps!

[badgolfibad]

yeah ur wasting time with ko4 go the gt28 lag what lag? mine kicks in at 3300 and it doesnt take long, as for internals the motor is fine unless you go past 280 300hp i wouldnt go past that with stock pistons rings etc, at the moment im engine out putting new pistons ,rods, inlet manifold also a lot of heatshielding is a good idea it gets hot in their, prob new oil pump and oil cooler to, im running adaptronic youll have to go standalone and get it tunned and you do need a dyno its worth the money! but good luck with the whole thing mate

[chrisgti]

what type of car is this going in? In the mkv's seem to read bout so many ppl having trouble getting power down with the k04 as it is.. Guys car I thought was a good example of bigger isnt always better, unless you like burnouts..

[badgolfibad]

golfs have trouble in general putting power down, its a front wheel drive they need lsd`s and upgraded suspension set up to get traction! in my opinion lsd should come with gti standard some of the renaults come with them already!

[Golf Houso]

what type of car is this going in? In the mkv's seem to read bout so many ppl having trouble getting power down with the k04 as it is.. Guys car I thought was a good example of bigger isnt always better, unless you like burnouts..

MKIV GTI, having driven it before and after the LSD + GT28RS it grips so much better, the car itself is completely different in terms of drive line and how it accelerates. The LSD is pretty much necessary imo...

And besides, you really can't push much more than 150-160kwatw with a KO4, but close to 300kwatw with a GT28.

Most people just stick with a K04 since they are either unwilling to do the extra LSD, Brakes, Clutches, mounts etc needed for bigger power or they simply cannot afford it. Not that a KO4 rebuild is cheap close to around 5-6k inc. manifolds, turbo, injectors and a tune.

Add 2-3k for programming and a standalone and a few other extras and you can be making an extra 50-70kw atwm with a GT28 with stock internals.

Up to you really, but having driven a car like that I know which I'd rather pick !

[tommymac]

its going into my mk2

top mounted disco potato, and I have the rest such as uprated bilstein/wietec suspension, wilwoods, etc etc, however i dont have a LSD and pullingthe box out now can eat my anus so i'll wait till i upgrade to a 02a to do the pelo or quaife

[chrisgti]

MKIV GTI, having driven it before and after the LSD + GT28RS it grips so much better, the car itself is completely different in terms of drive line and how it accelerates. The LSD is pretty much necessary imo...

And besides, you really can't push much more than 150-160kwatw with a KO4, but close to 300kwatw with a GT28.

Most people just stick with a K04 since they are either unwilling to do the extra LSD, Brakes, Clutches, mounts etc needed for bigger power or they simply cannot afford it. Not that a KO4 rebuild is cheap close to around 5-6k inc. manifolds, turbo, injectors and a tune.

Add 2-3k for programming and a standalone and a few other extras and you can be making an extra 50-70kw atwm with a GT28 with stock internals.

Up to you really, but having driven a car like that I know which I'd rather pick !

160 to 300 k04 to gt28 is pretty crazy are you sure thats right? I didnt think they were that much bigger.. 190 to 200 from a k04 seems to be the number in a mkv but 300 from a gt28 in a mkiv? wow.

As far as lsd's I'm already craving one too.. The mps guys are killing us in the 60ft department

[badgolfibad]

well im running 210kw atw with the 28 on 16 psi the cars not even tunned proper yet turbo kicks in at 2800 rpm so all you hear about ko4 ko3s spooling quicker is bull, , 300 hp is pretty common on 28 1.8t`s id imagine more on a fsi, internals can handle it too (except the clutch and fly ), but i wouldnt go past 300 without internals and rebuilt head ill be doing a rebuild soon ill post it up as i go.