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    Here is Lucas DIY thread for Remsa pads in case you found useful. (Sorry Lucas to use your thread)

    DIY - changing/upgrading the brake pads on Golf R

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    I run Ferodo DS2500 on my car, they are a favorite choice for me, they are more but not overly expensive
    They are perfectly fine on street and great on the track - your rotors will wear somewhat quicker than normal

    Another very cost effective option is QFM pads - GSL sell them
    HPX series for high performance or A1RM for frequent/hard track work
    These work great and are one of the cheapest performance pad you can get

    Remsa are a good option for sure

    Don't get hung up or caught out looking for a high performance pad that does not make much dust and does not wear the rotors heavily - it's a total myth - more braking performance from the same rotor means more brake dust and more rotor wear, it's a simple as that
    (Using low friction pads with bigger calipers may be the exception but it won't have that initial bite and not many of use would spend money for that configuration)

    I got a set of street ceramic pads that were meant to be low dust and ok for occasional track usage
    They were the opposite on both counts - very high dust and only handled 3 laps on the track

    Pads that need warming up will normally be fine by the time your water temperature reaches normal
    Just driving along your rotors will be like 36~40 degrees

    I would not buy high end DBA rotors - they are well known to crack
    Don't get drilled rotors - cracks start at the drilling holes - get plain or slotted rotors
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    Thanks Martin, appreciate the info, it is certainly very helpful to know your user experiences! I am looking to get a DBA rotors T3 4000 series slotted for the front, and T2 street series slotted for the rear to match up the slotted pattern, which looks to be an OK option. But just need to source some good pads to go with them. I just want to make sure the comfort and noise is a the bearable level for daily drive, since I won't track it often...

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    I run Ferodo DS2500 on my car, they are a favorite choice for me, they are more but not overly expensive
    They are perfectly fine on street and great on the track - your rotors will wear somewhat quicker than normal

    Another very cost effective option is QFM pads - GSL sell them
    HPX series for high performance or A1RM for frequent/hard track work
    These work great and are one of the cheapest performance pad you can get

    Remsa are a good option for sure

    Don't get hung up or caught out looking for a high performance pad that does not make much dust and does not wear the rotors heavily - it's a total myth - more braking performance from the same rotor means more brake dust and more rotor wear, it's a simple as that
    (Using low friction pads with bigger calipers may be the exception but it won't have that initial bite and not many of use would spend money for that configuration)

    I got a set of street ceramic pads that were meant to be low dust and ok for occasional track usage
    They were the opposite on both counts - very high dust and only handled 3 laps on the track

    Pads that need warming up will normally be fine by the time your water temperature reaches normal
    Just driving along your rotors will be like 36~40 degrees

    I would not buy high end DBA rotors - they are well known to crack
    Don't get drilled rotors - cracks start at the drilling holes - get plain or slotted rotors

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    So the T2 rotors are well priced from memory
    The T3/4000 are double the cost of stock rotors but still not expensive in outright terms

    The DS2500 pad is better for demanding drivers who want a lot of bite and feel and are less worried about rotor life
    They are normally completely silent
    After a lot of round town work you may get a little sqealing which can be cleared via an enthusiastic braking exercise
    The noise problem may get worse as the rotors become groved - hence higher maintenance (skimming the rotors)

    It's more common for the metalic racing pads to make noise
    You should be pretty safe with all the other options
    Bendix ultimate would be another good choice - good performance and no noise

    At the end of the day you'll have to try a set and see how it goes,
    very easy to change them out if you don't like them
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainBikeMike View Post
    So your saying that the initial bite from cold is slightly less than OEM? Because this is more than half my driving.. well my trips to work are in traffic for about 25k. How many brakes from 60-0 generally get the system warmed?
    Yup, as said, my car is tracked every month so pad bite when cold is average so others may have a more positive opinion. By average, i wouldn't punch it in to the first corner, but 2-3 applications and it's fine. I'd expect an OEM pad would be sufficient for some mountain passes, so these may not sit well for your daily needs. Everything is a compromise. I had tracked my car from factory spec, pads and all which is why I'd think an OEM pad should suffice, unless the quality of components on skoda is markedly less. I've ran formula feroda DS2500 and 2000's, great pads but exxy. 2000's are similar to these remsa's IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    Another very cost effective option is QFM pads - GSL sell them
    HPX series for high performance or A1RM for frequent/hard track work
    These work great and are one of the cheapest performance pad you can get
    I run the A1RMs on road between track days and they work alright on the road even from cold, although I don't drive aggressively in traffic. The big thing is to bed them in properly else they squeal mightily.
    According to Greg at GSL Rallysport, the HPX pads are on par with the Remsa ones but priced a bit higher which is why he recommends the Remsa pads for normal, aggressive road use.

    The DBA slotted rotors make a funny whirring sound when you brake hard.
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    All metalic pads need to be bed in - it's essential

    When swapping from ceramic to metalic or back it's best to have the discs machined
    This gives a good/flat surface for bedding in but also removes the previous pad material
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    APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
    APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
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    In another thread, someone linked to an article which used hard braking with cold brakes (so no pad material gets deposited on to the rotor) with pads with a high metal content to 'machine' off existing pad material when swapping pad types.

    It makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
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