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i've got no regrets spending the extra $$$ for an APR tune.
the apr tunes also come with additional programs, security lockout, anti-theft and FCE/TBA - which i believe the other tuners do not provide.
tis a shame about the price hike, but apr have no choice in that matter - its not in their control.
their products r still good and worth the price/wait.
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I wouldn't call it a rip-off - it's just premium pricing.Originally Posted by acidpants
They price to market and they are one of the most well known tunes available. Every noob asks about APR tunes.
Believe it or not, they aren't the most expensive out there.
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Hoyhoy.
I have a 9N3 Polo GTI, purchased new in 2006, within 2 weeks had the APR stage-1 done, bloody good stuff.
Then in late 2007 I went a bit further, fitting a Ko4 turbo again with the APR tune to suit, not one thing has been touched since then as far engine mods are concerned, not a thing.
I will say that the Little Blue Girl does have plenty of supporting mods as well as water-meth which is for cooling only.
Now this is the only 9N3 Polo to this day to have achieved official times in the sub 1'10" @ Wakefield Park.
So would I use another tune, why would I, when ya on a winner.
Last edited by Eddy; 09-11-2015 at 06:48 PM.
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JB1 Plug-in - A quarter the price, 7/8ths the power gain.. Adjustable with a smartphone, removable and completely undetectable / will not trigger your TD1 (warranty bit).
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Last time I've checked, the old saying "You always get what you've paid for", was still valid.
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Sure, works a lot of the time - except for when you're paying for a bunch of **** that you dont need (ie. global marketing, licencing, mechanics to 'fit' the tune etc etc)..
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Yes because of the above I too have decided to not go with APR sadly and get a Neuspeed Power Module, it has marginally lower power gains (ones I am unlikely to notice and I am happy with) plus as above it will not affect the warranty.
Additionally when I sell it will be going out to the new buyer as completely stock which they can do with it as they wish.
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And also other things like R&D for the local market and environmental conditions, proper safe and tested integration, and local support.
Each to their own of course, but I'd lock myself in a padded cell before I'd fit a tuning box to my car. Having an engineering background and a reasonable understanding of how these things achieve the power they do, I'd much rather keep my car stock!
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Gotta pay to play .. no point complaining to the forum about the price. The drop in AUD increased the price of my US based tune considerably too for my ST. Kicking myself for not purchasing it last year !
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It's (arguably) safer than flash tuning. A tuning box keeps within the safety parameters (fuelling, trim, timing) of the OEM programming. That extra 1/8th you're getting with a flash tune is due to being able to exceed the OEM limitations.
I noticed yesterday with the 36 degree weather in Sydney that the car was -significantly- down on power due to heat soak etc - obviously it's the stock ECU limitations kicking in and pulling timing to compensate. Do flash tunes compensate like the OEM programming does, or will you get lean scenario?
Anyway, to each their own! I've had Revo flash (in the MK6), and a JB1 box (in the MK7) - I'd go for the JB1 again in a heartbeat!
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