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Thread: APR ECU Upgrade MK6 Golf - Customer perspective

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    Besides stock (Program 1), I only have the 98 RON program (Program 2) and Security Lockout - enabled via another button - but I always have it unlocked).


    "Every 4th time" was just an early guess at the pattern - as mentioned yesterday I enabled it on the way to the shops and then on the way back home (2nd trip) it felt stock again (besides a bit of extra APR supercharger noise).


    I wish there was some way to disable the whole acceleration adaption process. My old 1992 Corolla didn't have it and I had no problems driving it in a relaxed or quick manner. When I push down on the accelerator a little or a lot, I want to know exactly how the car will respond before it responds (something that any car owner should subconciously know after owning a car for a while).

    I'll also add (at least for my car), that the DSG isn't quite as smooth in low gears when I first start the car and things hasn't warmed up.

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    If anyone has any particular issues, please contact us directly, we have extensive trouble shooting procedures.

    All the data to see exactly what your car is doing can be found here:

    Give our support team a call & we can tell you what to log

    APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

    The switched program can not change, it is set, and apart from a battery off condition that will set it back to stock mode, it is fixed.

    What does change on these engines is the ~ 38 odd variables & sensors that feed into the system & the ECU adjusts accordingly. Temperature (air & coolant), humidity, barometric, knock (fuel), o2 all feed back into the system & it adjusts accordingly.

    By switching programs, you are just changing a set of base tables, it's the adaptive tables & channels that are not touched & hold the important data.

    One thing we worked with with Logger was to put in a single, non switched program & monitored it for a period of time.

    Our number is 1300 730 949.

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    The only time I notice any difference to my tune is when its bloody hot and humid.

    Other than that it seems to run perfectly.
    2019 BMW M3 CS

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    Hey guys, I was just wondering, the power fluctuation issues so many are experiencing with the tuning, could it be related to the fact that the cars have a torque limiter for the DSG equipped cars?

    I wonder if any manual transmissions have the same problem?

    Some one posted this before:

    HPA Motorsports Inc. - DSG Performance Programming

    Pretty cool looking stuff if it works. I thought "that sounds good", and I remember hearing GUY_H say that there is "no torque converters" or was it that the APR tune rids of the need for an item that releases the torque limitations of the DSG?

    But looking at the symptoms, and what people have been complaining about (of the ones that log onto the net at least), could be onto something..

    Because although there are variables like ambient temp, fuel quality etc.. I dont think these would play a role in the equation, that would result in the symptoms documented.

    Just a thought.
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    I think Guy's post is more on the money. I just don't have the tools, time, or airport runway access to provide meaningful feedback

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    It sure seems the 118TSIs are a bit more sensitive to "something" than the GTI's and R's though!

    But agreed - Guy_H's advice is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REXman View Post
    Hey guys, I was just wondering, the power fluctuation issues so many are experiencing with the tuning, could it be related to the fact that the cars have a torque limiter for the DSG equipped cars?
    Shame you can't use the VCDS to monitor multiple modules at once say engine, dsg and awd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave_r View Post
    Shame you can't use the VCDS to monitor multiple modules at once say engine, dsg and awd.
    Just need a separate laptop for each

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_H View Post
    Just need a separate laptop for each
    You got me intrested now! I'm guessing you have a special VCDS type cable or method? I mean VCDS is a single USB output. How does 3 laptops help?

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    3 laptops, 3 x hex USB + Can cables, connect directly to the can wires. There is no limitation on the can bus talking to different modules, the limitation is 1 laptop / 1 USB connection / 1 VCDS cable per laptop.

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