APR ECU and APR HPFP

[noone]

You won't need / want to switch back to stock, that feature is really only for people hiding the chip under warranty.

[DNA Tuning]

We provide switchable tunes via our handheld unit, the DNA Tuning SRS-II; it can store 2 versions of upgraded tunes AND your original tune, and you can swith between them. It also acts as an error code scanner so it's handy to keep in the car. This option is an additional $270, and you get to choose 2 upgrade levels of tunes for it.

DNA Tuning SRS-II:


Our aggressive tune (figures at the wheels):


Other dyno graphs available; please send an email to me at dnatuning.aus@gmail.com and we can continue the discussions there, cheers.

[schoona]

OP, John has gone out of his way explaining the general principles of 2.0T tuning.
He has conducted himself well, and offered a great product at very competitive prices.

As for the basic ethos of tuning, there is plenty of information on here, vwgolf.net, golfmkv.com about the options (software, DP, HPFP etc). It would take a lot of strain off John you finding out what you want to do with the car, and what you need to get there. Then make contact with the relevant people.

Much easier, HTH

[Romp]

For what its worth i went apr for the stalk tune changing but i found i never needed to switch it back to stock. Giac was my alternative and is the one id go for if i were doing it all over again. Most kw per dollar, tried, trusted. That said, love my car with apr, it was just more expensive

[Pappon]

For what its worth i went apr for the stalk tune changing but i found i never needed to switch it back to stock. Giac was my alternative and is the one id go for if i were doing it all over again. Most kw per dollar, tried, trusted. That said, love my car with apr, it was just more expensive

What kind of power outputs does GIACs EUC pump out?

[Romp]

What kind of power outputs does GIACs EUC pump out?

Look up sammy's car... He just did a 222kw atw... He has a k04 tho

Think he did 171kw with dp and intake

[manol]

Hey guys just bought a 2006 golf gti and was interested in doing the following things:

APR ECU
APR HPFP

Apparently from this i get the power will go up from stock 147kw 280nm to 188kw and 411nm. The APR HPFP from what i'm told gives approx 20kw at 3000rpm-5000rpm which i think is quite good.

Has anybody fitted the HPFP and what are the results and opinions? ALso do i need a diverter valve if fitting an APR ECU?

Also i know fitting an ECU doesn't alter insurance much how about when fitting the fuel pump? Any advice on this subject guys?

Sorry another question do most guys who fit the ecu upgrade brakes and or suspension?

Thanks in advance guys.

I have a GIAC tune with the upgraded HPFP, intake and downpipe and at the last dyno day in Melbourne I scored 164.8kw.
No other "Stage 2" car came close.

With APR you don't have the option of picking whatever brand of HPFP you want, if you buy a fuel pump that ISN'T theirs you have to pay to have the tune upgraded to account for it. You don't have to with GIAC.

The APR fuel pump is $1700 which is a ****ing rort. I'm fairly sure you can pick up an Autotech HPFP from the US for half that price.

The HPFP makes the car feel a ****load stronger in the midrange than what it is stock. I disagree with John. An appropriately tuned car with a HPFP and downpipe makes a massive difference in power in the midrange.

I also have a dyno graph to backup my results.

Speak to Arthur at Exotic Cars and he'll be sure to help you out.

John, I'd love to see a Stage 2 DNA Tuning GTI that compares.

[DNA Tuning]

Just want to clarify that our "Stage 2" file is not the same as your Stage 2 file in terms of boost. Our "Stage 2" is a file that makes no requirements for other modifications; instead it is a level of tune that is more aggressive than our "Stage 1" and is safe to run on a stock vehicle, as in the case of David's Octavia which did 150kw on the same day as your car.

We have a further level "Stage 2+" which is designed to accompany downpipe/intake/intercooler upgrades which would easily lift the performance level up to if not beyond the 160's. In fact, even on his current tune, downpipe/intake upgrades could quite easily bring the car close to the 160kW mark on the same day.

I hope this clears up any confusions or misconceptions people may have regarding "Stages"; what one company defines is different to another. We rate our Stage 1 program at 184kW, Stage 2 at 188kW, and Stage 2+ at 196kW. As such, the different in peak power is greater between the 2 to 2+ than between the 1 & 2.

I have a GIAC tune with the upgraded HPFP, intake and downpipe and at the last dyno day in Melbourne I scored 164.8kw.
No other "Stage 2" car came close.

With APR you don't have the option of picking whatever brand of HPFP you want, if you buy a fuel pump that ISN'T theirs you have to pay to have the tune upgraded to account for it. You don't have to with GIAC.

The APR fuel pump is $1700 which is a ****ing rort. I'm fairly sure you can pick up an Autotech HPFP from the US for half that price.

The HPFP makes the car feel a ****load stronger in the midrange than what it is stock. I disagree with John. An appropriately tuned car with a HPFP and downpipe makes a massive difference in power in the midrange.

I also have a dyno graph to backup my results.

Speak to Arthur at Exotic Cars and he'll be sure to help you out.

John, I'd love to see a Stage 2 DNA Tuning GTI that compares.

[Nathan_B]

OP, John has gone out of his way explaining the general principles of 2.0T tuning.
He has conducted himself well, and offered a great product at very competitive prices.

As for the basic ethos of tuning, there is plenty of information on here, vwgolf.net, golfmkv.com about the options (software, DP, HPFP etc). It would take a lot of strain off John you finding out what you want to do with the car, and what you need to get there. Then make contact with the relevant people.

Much easier, HTH

Well said

[Tim]

I suggest just going for the APR ECU as their fuel pump will not add power to your car. The fuel pump may come in handy for Stage 3 setups but you can always get that further down the track.

As you can understand, having the capacity for more fuel delivery is great, but if the stock K03 turbo is unable to generate enough air/boost to require this extra fuel then it is pointless; ie. the fuel pump itself does not magically add 20kW.

The fuel pump adds a nice chunk of mid range torque where the standard cam driven pump struggles to supply enough pressure (more revs = more ability to supply fuel).
Adding the pump allows the tuner to increase performance where it really matters. Its a night over day comparison imo. Obviously the fuel pump needs a tune that takes advantage of the extra fuel available at low rpm though.