What to Buy? Golf R 7 vs R Grid 7.5

[westenderbender]

If you want a Grid you may wanna jump the gun quickly. New stock is running pretty dry.


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[flat6]

Spent the better half of the day driving all over vic checking whats on the market, Ended up picking up a beautiful MK7 R in lapis Blue with APR tune,

I seen some R's in shocking condition, a certain dealer in the south east had one with low k's but looked like it had been stolen and joyridden within an inch of its life, buckled rims, 4 Different tires! just terrible for a car with under 30,000ks still asking top dollar...

[westenderbender]

Spent the better half of the day driving all over vic checking whats on the market, Ended up picking up a beautiful MK7 R in lapis Blue with APR tune,

I seen some R's in shocking condition, a certain dealer in the south east had one with low k's but looked like it had been stolen and joyridden within an inch of its life, buckled rims, 4 Different tires! just terrible for a car with under 30,000ks still asking top dollar...

Congrats! DSG or manual?


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[tigger73]

Spent the better half of the day driving all over vic checking whats on the market, Ended up picking up a beautiful MK7 R in lapis Blue with APR tune,

So I'm guessing that leather > 7 speed DSG in the end. I probably would have gone the other way having driven both. I think the 7 speed is the much better gearbox in terms of spread of gear ratios / match to the engine. But then understand the argument that the leather does feel more premium.

You do see all sorts in second-hand cars.

[flat6]

Went with the Leather DSG, with the APR tune its plenty fast for a daily driver

I did miss having a 6th gear in the polo, time will tell if i'll miss the 7th in DSG

How many RPM does the MK7 6sp DSG idle at around 100kms? might be incorrect but i'm certain it was about 2000rpm

[mp2811]

Flat6, I think at 100km/h the 6sp sits around 2200 rpm in the 7Sp its around 1800. I'm not surprised you got APR tuned one it's massive difference over stock.

I was going to post before advising the 7.5 for few reasons especially if tuning. The stronger 7SP gear box and also latest updated turbo revision, will have latest Haldex Pump and the new Water pump with metal instead of plastic.

I say this as I'm stage 2 APR 2014 MK7R and performance phenomenal but I've had water pump go and also the haldex pump. I accept it as pay to play etc bit annoying having both go almost same time though. Anyway enjoy your car and I'm just unlucky so I highly doubt you will have any issues.

[flat6]

Thx MP, yep that sounds about right, still not too bad for cruising.. my polo with the 5sp sits at 3000 @110k

At how many km's did both the pumps go? I'm sure you can retrofit these sorts of 7.5 parts to the 7 when required. Hoping theses bugs have been ironed out by my16

[mp2811]

Thx MP, yep that sounds about right, still not too bad for cruising.. my polo with the 5sp sits at 3000 @110k

At how many km's did both the pumps go? I'm sure you can retrofit these sorts of 7.5 parts to the 7 when required. Hoping theses bugs have been ironed out by my16

My Haldex started to show signs of failing at around 35k km. Traction control coming on whenever taking off fast 5k rpm+ in first I firstly assumed it was my tyres which were getting bald. The water pump failed at 40k km mark and at that time I swapped front tyres to MP4s they grip so well that masked haldex issue for a while. Plus I rarely get change to drive car "hard" so wasn't really issue daily driving.

I'm not sure when they updated the Water pump from plastic part to metal which latest is and prevents cracking/failures. I have latest improved one installed now so shouldn't fail again. The haldex pump failed due to filter getting clogged up and metal shavings in oil. Not sure what caused that as had haldex service at 30k mark. Whether it was slowing failing due to software glitch in older models or not. Anyway I'd say with early regular maintenance shouldn't be an issue. I left mine 15k km before getting it looked at so possibly if I had it checked when I first noticed maybe could have done software update and clean filter and saved pump failure but who knows.

Water pump replacement is around $1500 and haldex pump around $1000. Not nice but not end of world considering the performance the car has at stage 2 levels at bargain price when comparing performance levels to cars like RS3, A45, M3 etc.

[slin]

My Haldex started to show signs of failing at around 35k km. Traction control coming on whenever taking off fast 5k rpm+ in first I firstly assumed it was my tyres which were getting bald. The water pump failed at 40k km mark and at that time I swapped front tyres to MP4s they grip so well that masked haldex issue for a while. Plus I rarely get change to drive car "hard" so wasn't really issue daily driving.

I'm not sure when they updated the Water pump from plastic part to metal which latest is and prevents cracking/failures. I have latest improved one installed now so shouldn't fail again. The haldex pump failed due to filter getting clogged up and metal shavings in oil. Not sure what caused that as had haldex service at 30k mark. Whether it was slowing failing due to software glitch in older models or not. Anyway I'd say with early regular maintenance shouldn't be an issue. I left mine 15k km before getting it looked at so possibly if I had it checked when I first noticed maybe could have done software update and clean filter and saved pump failure but who knows.

Water pump replacement is around $1500 and haldex pump around $1000. Not nice but not end of world considering the performance the car has at stage 2 levels at bargain price when comparing performance levels to cars like RS3, A45, M3 etc.

Great reply but almost all too every day occurrence, having met a haldex fail at 35k on a 7R makes me want to get mine checked at 10k

[crainger]

Went with the Leather DSG, with the APR tune its plenty fast for a daily driver

I did miss having a 6th gear in the polo, time will tell if i'll miss the 7th in DSG

How many RPM does the MK7 6sp DSG idle at around 100kms? might be incorrect but i'm certain it was about 2000rpm

Def days I miss a 7spd in my GTI.