VW MY16 Changes

[Mikey1]

Glad I cancelled my Golf R MY15.5 (which I was meant to pick up next week) for a MY16. The 5.8" screen would have bothered me a lot knowing this screen is only months away!

How do you cancel (without penalty?) an order that you are meant to pick up next week? It couldn't possibly have been a custom build. Did you then place an order for an MY16 model with a similar equipment level? Was there a difference in purchase price?

[RMBB]

How do you cancel (without penalty?) an order that you are meant to pick up next week? It couldn't possibly have been a custom build. Did you then place an order for an MY16 model with a similar equipment level? Was there a difference in purchase price?

It was a custom order I made back in March (yes, it has been forever), but I wanted the latest tech on the R which was the soonest I could have gotten the configuration I wanted with Blind Spot assist on the MK7 R.

When I was making the order I made a really strong point about there being 0% chance of the screen changing in the MY16 (I specifically asked at least 20 times). So after all I am the customer and in essence (even though the guy I was dealing with had no idea to be fair) I was lied to and put money down on a car, which if I wanted to get technical I could work my way out of that initial contract. Didn't have to get legal though, the guys at VW were good about it.

In short though, I asked to transfer to a MY16 and I released my MY15.5 R model so the dealer could sell it and they put my name against a MY16 R which has yet to be built.

Price itself hasn't been set in stone since VW Australia haven't released any (to my knowledge). All I know though is I won't be paying anymore than my initial contract because my quote was on a brand new Golf R (at the time) and now that Leather is standard I will bargain for little more off.

[frozze]

Sorry to deviate slightly..

Wife looking to upgrade her polo to possibly a Golf Wagon.. we test drove it at VW Camberwell (VIC) today.. we didn't really negotiate or talk about pricing today as we had to rush off suddenly but sales person quoted 92TSI Comfortline MY16 DSG for $33,700 driveaway.

How much do you think we'd be able to push it down to? We're planning on trading the Polo in (they valued it at $10k - can you actually negotiate for a better value?) for it.

Is it worth checking another dealer out to get a better pricing?

[Mikey1]

It was a custom order I made back in March (yes, it has been forever), but I wanted the latest tech on the R which was the soonest I could have gotten the configuration I wanted with Blind Spot assist on the MK7 R.

When I was making the order I made a really strong point about there being 0% chance of the screen changing in the MY16 (I specifically asked at least 20 times). So after all I am the customer and in essence (even though the guy I was dealing with had no idea to be fair) I was lied to and put money down on a car, which if I wanted to get technical I could work my way out of that initial contract. Didn't have to get legal though, the guys at VW were good about it.

In short though, I asked to transfer to a MY16 and I released my MY15.5 R model so the dealer could sell it and they put my name against a MY16 R which has yet to be built.

Price itself hasn't been set in stone since VW Australia haven't released any (to my knowledge). All I know though is I won't be paying anymore than my initial contract because my quote was on a brand new Golf R (at the time) and now that Leather is standard I will bargain for little more off.

I think you are one very fortunate customer, as no matter what the sales guy says or doesn't say, haven't you entered into a legally binding contract to purchase the car with the specifications/options listed? Given the dealer will most likely not sell your custom build order for what you paid, I would think the leather inclusion savings on the MY16 model will not be passed onto you. If they are offered in part, you will be even luckier.

[RMBB]

I think you are one very fortunate customer, as no matter what the sales guy says or doesn't say, haven't you entered into a legally binding contract to purchase the car with the specifications/options listed? Given the dealer will most likely not sell your custom build order for what you paid, I would think the leather inclusion savings on the MY16 model will not be passed onto you. If they are offered in part, you will be even luckier.

A salesman can't lie to you to acquire a sale, so I had that going for me if it did come to that. Although, if anyone here is looking to move to a MY16, for gods sake stay civil and don't pull out the legal lines. Play it cool and explain why you want to change and say please. Kindness goes a long way.

As for the dealer reselling the fully option Golf R MK7 MY15.5 in White, it won't be difficult. Not everyone cares about the latest tech and depending on the customer they might even sell it for more. They only wanted a $1K deposit because it's such a highly sought after car. Who's even saying I had a good price to start off with! hahaha

The leather won't add a full non-negotiable $3K to the total price (which is what it use to cost). If anything (because of economies of scales on the leather option being standard) I should be able to work the cost of the total car lower theoretically. End of the day, all I know is I am not going to pay more than I had been originally quoted. Especially as other Golf's. and Polo's are having their cost slashed with more extras as standard!

p.s. Mickey1, if that is your R in your avatar I bloody love it. One fine looking vehicle!

[Mikey1]

Sorry to deviate slightly..

Wife looking to upgrade her polo to possibly a Golf Wagon.. we test drove it at VW Camberwell (VIC) today.. we didn't really negotiate or talk about pricing today as we had to rush off suddenly but sales person quoted 92TSI Comfortline MY16 DSG for $33,700 driveaway.

How much do you think we'd be able to push it down to? We're planning on trading the Polo in (they valued it at $10k - can you actually negotiate for a better value?) for it.

Is it worth checking another dealer out to get a better pricing?

Trade-ins interfere with obtaining genuine new car discounts. Unless you don't want to be bothered with the hassles of selling your Polo privately, you should always sell privately to maximise the price you receive and minimise what you pay for the new vehicle.

[Dutch77]

A salesman can't lie to you to acquire a sale, so I had that going for me if it did come to that. Although, if anyone here is looking to move to a MY16, for gods sake stay civil and don't pull out the legal lines. Play it cool and explain why you want to change and say please. Kindness goes a long way.

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The leather won't add a full non-negotiable $3K to the total price (which is what it use to cost). If anything (because of economies of scales on the leather option being standard) I should be able to work the cost of the total car lower theoretically. End of the day, all I know is I am not going to pay more than I had been originally quoted. Especially as other Golf's. and Polo's are having their cost slashed with more extras as standard!

+1 on Mikeys comment. Super lucky to get off that one, given the average VW salesperson wouldn't even know today what the specs of MY16 are let alone when the deal was done. Obviously there must be enough in the deal if they keep you happy but nice work.

Golf R is not having a price cut, it's just getting the extras for 'free'.

Trade-ins interfere with obtaining genuine new car discounts. Unless you don't want to be bothered with the hassles of selling your Polo privately, you should always sell privately to maximise the price you receive and minimise what you pay for the new vehicle.

I don't see trade ins having any impact whatsoever if you are an educated car buyer - they have had zero effect on my deals. Just know what the wholesale price is and work off that. Private will net higher, but often is a lot of work and hassle especially for the time poor.

After my recent experiences and all the tools I dealt with I don't mind having traded and skipped all of that.

[RMBB]

+1 on Mikeys comment. Super lucky to get off that one, given the average VW salesperson wouldn't even know today what the specs of MY16 are let alone when the deal was done. Obviously there must be enough in the deal if they keep you happy but nice work.

Golf R is not having a price cut, it's just getting the extras for 'free'.

Believe me, I am very thankful I was allowed to change! Probably felt bad for me because I really wanted a better screen, to me the car is 100% perfect now.

If VW Australia are throwing in leather I'll theoretically be able to deduct the additional leather cost from my original quote then right? Also, out of curiosity does that mean VW Australia have passed on a price guide to the dealers?

Thanks in advance Dutch77

[HPSOV]

Also, out of curiosity does that mean VW Australia have passed on a price guide to the dealers?

Thanks in advance Dutch77

My dealer said they got confirmation of pricing on Tuesday, hence why I was able to work out a firm price. That being said they still can't generate a contract with MY16 on it as they're 'not in the system yet'.

[Mikey1]

I don't see trade ins having any impact whatsoever if you are an educated car buyer - they have had zero effect on my deals. Just know what the wholesale price is and work off that. Private will net higher, but often is a lot of work and hassle especially for the time poor.

After my recent experiences and all the tools I dealt with I don't mind having traded and skipped all of that.

I can't see how a trade-in can have zero effect on any deal for the purchase of a new car. There is usually a substantial gulf between a dealer's wholesale and retail price on a used car, and selling privately for something midway is a win-win for the seller and buyer, otherwise we would all use the trade-in process and second hand car buyers would only buy cars from dealers with a warranty.

I understand this didn't work for you when you tried to privately sell your Golf GTI Mk6, and you can justify your position accordingly. However, from this single experience or even any previous ones, would you never try to sell your future cars privately? If as you say you would rather avoid all the tools who made your private selling experience a pain, well that's fair enough. I agree time poor people need not bother either.

In my case, I pocketed around an extra $4K in selling my Golf GTI Mk5 car privately, so it was a no-brainer for me. I realise I was probably lucky to have found the right buyer at the right time. The discount I received on my Golf R would have been the same.