Stiff competition for the Mk7 Golf GTI - Second Edition

[kaktusdigital]

VW wll need to take a good hard look at the features for price at this stage or this poll is pointing to sales doom.

I assume the majority of A250 buyers = Ex spec'd up GTI buyers. The 250sport has quite a few extras as standard which offers good value for money. Time will tell whether the GTI base model will sit far below the starting price of the A250. Personally I can live without pretty much all the extras that the GTI offers (maybe sunroof) so the effective pricing between the two are going to be fairly large. As some one else mentioned, it would be great to have a de-spec'd A250 sport with pricing to match.

[Dutch77]

I think it's important to remember also that all of this is still fairly subjective - only a few of us have driven the A250 already, and we can only guess as to how good (or not) the mk7 GTI/R will be.

I agree VW will need to look at sharpening the pricing a bit, but for arguments sake if they can bring in a similar specced and slightly lower priced vehicle - I'm thinking say $50k v $55k - and it's a better drive all round then I'm not that desperate for a MB badge to swap over. If the best they can do is end up at the same price AND the drive is similar then sure, the MB may very well be on my shop list.

Either way I agree the poll is becoming relevant and would seem to indicate that GTI buyers will definitely be shopping the A250 at a minimum.

[TuNeS]

I assume the majority of A250 buyers = Ex spec'd up GTI buyers. The 250sport has quite a few extras as standard which offers good value for money. Time will tell whether the GTI base model will sit far below the starting price of the A250. Personally I can live without pretty much all the extras that the GTI offers (maybe sunroof) so the effective pricing between the two are going to be fairly large. As some one else mentioned, it would be great to have a de-spec'd A250 sport with pricing to match.

Agree. If the cars were line ball, I would still be choosing the base spec Merc as you never get your money back on options. Considering the GTI is close to $40k, $10k is a lot of options to bring it up to the Merc and a lot of extra coin to lose. People just look at Redbook for value.

[Sharkie]

I've said this already, but seems to have been missed with all the pro A250 Mumbo jumbo ..... Pretty sure at $49990 a Golf R is better specced than the A250 not to mention AWD and much more powerful. Mk7 R will also bring 220kw/380NM which will put it close to the AMG A for $40k less .....

[kaktusdigital]

IPretty sure at $49990 a Golf R

Is this before the dealer delivery etc charges?

It certainly is good value for money either way considering the brochure for the A250 sport already states the exact price as its starting point.

[Sharkie]

Is this before the dealer delivery etc charges?

It certainly is good value for money either way considering the brochure for the A250 sport already states the exact price as its starting point.

Base A250 is $54k drive away ..... I can get into a R for substantially less than that ..... And having now closely compared the specs of each can confirm the R is better specced ....

[pologti18t]

Base A250 is $54k drive away ..... I can get into a R for substantially less than that ..... And having now closely compared the specs of each can confirm the R is better specced ....

Why are you comparing a run out Golf R with a new to market (and not discounted) A250 on price?

Once the "new" R is released it will be considerable more expensive (RRP + ORC) than an A250 (RRP + ORC)

[Sharkie]

Why are you comparing a run out Golf R with a new to market (and not discounted) A250 on price?

Once the "new" R is released it will be considerable more expensive (RRP + ORC) than an A250 (RRP + ORC)

Actually, no .... R manual is RRP $49990 and much less with discounts on run out .... And it would be VERY unlikely to be any more expensive in mk7 form ..... In fact R dropped in price from Mk5 to Mk6 ..... Price will still be more or less the same for much less of a car in the A250 compared to the R.

[oshuyi]

Actually, no .... R manual is RRP $49990 and much less with discounts on run out .... And it would be VERY unlikely to be any more expensive in mk7 form ..... In fact R dropped in price from Mk5 to Mk6 ..... Price will still be more or less the same for much less of a car in the A250 compared to the R.

The thing is, with the new GTI, we don't even know whether it's going to de-tuned for the AUS market. All info so far is based from the oversea specs.

Also I'll be more than happy to buy a A250 over the current R anything day. It might may under power, but it has more torque and it should be MORE reliable

[pologti18t]

Actually, no .... R manual is RRP $49990 and much less with discounts on run out .... And it would be VERY unlikely to be any more expensive in mk7 form ..... In fact R dropped in price from Mk5 to Mk6 ..... Price will still be more or less the same for much less of a car in the A250 compared to the R.

I suppose we will have to wait and see.
I still believe MB's equipment levels and limited (and reasonably priced) options will affect how VW markets the next Golf here.