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    My wife and I both are both in the habit of first starting the Passat then reaching for the Auto Stop/Start button shortly after, To turn it off!! It's the most annoying system, and the pissy amount of fuel your going to save is not going to cover the cost of premature wear of the turbo from oil deprivation.
    The Auto hold I found useful on my 09 Tiguan manual, but in an Auto?? I think it's been turned off for about two years now!!
    Combine the two and try a tight reverse park )


    2011 B7 Passat TDI highline wagon. I tinted the windows "Slap in the back of the head" take off issues."Slap in the back of the head" take off issues.
    2011 B7 Passat Highline Wagon TDI. I Tinted the Windows

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    True, but my issue is creeping with traffic.

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    Heres what your problem is.

    Unless you put it into 1st manually it sits in 2nd Well does in the Polo anyway The hesitation you are getting is it dropping into 1st when you mash the throttle Just let it roll a bit then apply power gently. Look at your MFD and see what gear its in when you stop.

    Neither of mine do what you say.

    Driver differences I guess You should never let it creep in traffic as it will burn the clutches
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    Mine drops to first in my Golf R-line (7 Speed).

    Waiting for it to engage and start creeping after releasing the brake can sometimes cause a looooooong pause before it actually engages anything.

    On quiet nights, or in a carpark, you can hear the mechatronics working and selecting 1st/2nd. My Golf selects first at a stop and also shows this on the MFD, then at approx 5kph will slip the clutches into second and keep slipping them until road speed speed is sufficient enough to allow complete engagement of 2nd gear above 1,200rpm or so.

    So while your theory may apply to your Polo, the Golf obviously operates differently.

    Besides, if you read some previous responses (mine being one of them), you would see that mashing the throttle is not what we are doing. The main cause is the stop-start and the following transition off of brake to throttle. Not lightning quick jumps from one to the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillbilly View Post
    Heres what your problem is.

    Unless you put it into 1st manually it sits in 2nd Well does in the Polo anyway The hesitation you are getting is it dropping into 1st when you mash the throttle Just let it roll a bit then apply power gently. Look at your MFD and see what gear its in when you stop.

    Neither of mine do what you say.

    Driver differences I guess You should never let it creep in traffic as it will burn the clutches
    My 6r gti Polo was way different to my current golf gti. It's not really something with technique.

    I have a loaned tiguan at the moment from vw (brand new highline diesel) and it doesn't behave like the gti. Even with stop start it doesn't jump if you slightly hurry it like the golf does.

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    Had my car in for service today and mentioned the issue. The fellow said he has complained about the same thing in his mk7. This is a known issue and there is not currently a fix.
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    I see this with stop start irrespective of whether ACC is activated. 103TSI highline. I find that if I hit the accelerator more fiercely when starting again, I'll get a very sudden jump on takeoff.

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    Found this
    stemei.de .VCDS Codierungen .Codierungsservice .Webdesign - Stefan Meier - Anfahrassistent - VCDS Codierungen, Webdesign

    You will need to translate it.

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    In the control unit of the electronic brake system gives you the option of the VW Golf 7 and verbautem automatic transmission (S-Tronic) adapt the dynamic start-off. The approach can thus be changed accordingly. Since when shipped to the dynamic start assist with the setting normally relatively late releases the brake is always a strong jerk felt, which causes an overall poor starting performance of the vehicle. If you change the setting to keep the early (and hence the brake intervention) of the Start-minimized and thus you feel no annoying and can hold more - as it should - start smoothly.

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    My trip into work is 7.7Km long, I have a Golf Mk7 90TSI base, I use the start/stop and in the hilly bits I turn on the auto hold, in the mornings I get between 43 and 55 start/stop events on the way to work (yep, I counted for a week). Never once have I had what the OP is describing.

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    Mk7 103Tsi - I had on occasion felt the car jerk as described. Now I give it a few seconds for the engine to come close to idle after each start/stop event before easing on the accelerator. No more jerking; but it does take a little patience. It seems to me from what I have read here that some of the cars here takes longer than others engage the drive train.

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