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    Octavia RS in lieu of GTI

    I am wondering if anyone here considered an RS instead of a GTI and/or if anyone has any views about what the trade-offs might be, apart from the Skoda badge.

    I am not very gruntled by VW shortening the boot in the Golf7 so that luggage that fits in my Mark V boot does not fit in the Golf7 boot. In that regard, the Octavia has a boot of 568 litres as against the 7's 380.

    I gather the Octavia is a hatch and not a true sedan so has that practical feature covered.

    Where does the Octavia fall down compared to the Golf, apart from say greater LOA (and so not quite as practical a city car for parking)?

    Has anyone driven an Octavia RS and done the comparo with the GTI?
    If the answer to the Monty Hall problem was 50/50, the contestant, on average, would win the car 50% of the time simply by sticking with their original guess...but you can only win a one-in-three guessing game 33.33% of the time so it can't be 50/50, can it?

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    Per my post elsewhere you know my thoughts: I'd be buying the RS wagon every time over a GTI.

    The sedan/hatch combo doesn't do much for me looks wise whereas the wagon is just right and more practical again.

    There isn't much between the two performance and handling wise, especially when the GTI is ultimately a bit of a compromise vehicle (which is exactly why I chose it originally over the Ford, Renault etc), so unless the last 5% matters (and if it does buy an R anyway) make the smart choice.

    I'm sure if AdamD has time he will be able to post a quick summation that will back this up given his recent test drives.

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    If performance matters to you, and you enjoy track days, the Octavia is 2+ seconds slower and has a lot of weight at the rear

    For day to day practical living and usefulness I would have the Octavia any day

    The things I've carted around in the back of my wagon:
    Eight 18*8 wheels with 245/40 tyres
    A 7 litre Fisher & Paykel washing machine
    A large barbeque kit
    A Nissan 350Z gearbox
    A Nissan Pulsar Gearbox

    If you put a tune on the Octavia it gives it a decent performance boost

    Parking the Octavia is not a problem
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    I have not driven the MK7 GTI, so I cannot comment on the comparison, but for the Octavia RS wagon(current model) I own, I found it easy to park. One thing you might need to consider is the standard equipment in the RS and the GTI, I think the GTI has less goodies as standard(BI-Xenon for one, I think it's not even an option for 2015, if you want this you need to get GTI PP or R). But the GTI does get to opt for the ACC, and the RS doesn't.
    Last edited by sillyboy; 12-06-2015 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    Parking the Octavia is not a problem
    But in a 4500mm parking space?

    The parking issue to which I refer is the lower number of unmarked parking spaces into which an Octavia will fit vs a Golf.

    The Octavia is 4585 whereas a Golf7 is just 4255, 330m less. The Octavia is 369mm longer than the 4216mm Mark V.
    If the answer to the Monty Hall problem was 50/50, the contestant, on average, would win the car 50% of the time simply by sticking with their original guess...but you can only win a one-in-three guessing game 33.33% of the time so it can't be 50/50, can it?

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    Really hard to park.

    Not very good cars. Poorly made, full of rattles.

    Very poorly thought out design features such as when you lift the hatch in a low ceiling car park it hits the ceiling.

    Really poor dealer service.
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    deleted*Double posted for some reason
    Last edited by sillyboy; 12-06-2015 at 04:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold View Post
    But in a 4500mm parking space?

    The parking issue to which I refer is the lower number of unmarked parking spaces into which an Octavia will fit vs a Golf.

    The Octavia is 4585 whereas a Golf7 is just 4255, 330m less. The Octavia is 369mm longer than the 4216mm Mark V.
    I think the AU standard for parking space length limit is from 4.8m to 5.4m(I can be wrong about this one), but if the 2015 Camry is at 4815mm long, I don't think you can call it a parking space if you can't park a Camry there, which is probably the most popular mainstream mid-size car.

    Edit* I think the best thing for you to do is go for a test drive in both(a long test drive perhaps), our opinions might be different to yours, but I think you have already decided on Golf GTI, both cars are good, just go with the one you like most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    If performance matters to you, and you enjoy track days, the Octavia is 2+ seconds slower and has a lot of weight at the rear

    For day to day practical living and usefulness I would have the Octavia any day
    That was the point I was wanting to make - you can make a track car out of anything ultimately but if you really care about those last seconds I don't think the GTI is the car for you anyway - go take an R.

    The practicality of the RS is brilliant.

    The things I've carted around in the back of my wagon:
    Eight 18*8 wheels with 245/40 tyres
    I find myself nodding with a Jeremy Clarkson 'yesssss' when reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold View Post
    But in a 4500mm parking space?

    The parking issue to which I refer is the lower number of unmarked parking spaces into which an Octavia will fit vs a Golf.
    You must be kidding - the Golf is a small car yes - but public parking caters for a wide range of car sizes
    The Octavia is not a big car by any means
    The Camry is a good common example
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