Mk7 Golf TSI & TDI - Observations and Questions

[lambertia]

I'm not sure if it's true but my dealer said that vw need to pay a $50 licence fee for the traffic. And thus they disable it.

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[flight]

I'm not sure if it's true but my dealer said that vw need to pay a $50 licence fee for the traffic. And thus they disable it.

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That sounds like absolute rubbish to me. Car dealers like to make up their own rules on the fly.

[wasabiz]

I'm not sure if it's true but my dealer said that vw need to pay a $50 licence fee for the traffic. And thus they disable it.

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Errr 50 dollars for lisence fee, I'd be more than glad to pay it if I can get that feature rather than get an incomplete car.

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[flight]

Errr 50 dollars for lisence fee, I'd be more than glad to pay it if I can get that feature rather than get an incomplete car.

Why would you want to pay $50 for something you have already got?

[Dutch77]

I have no idea what the licence fees to SUNA are, but it may be $50 per vehicle.

Why VW aren't paying this and incorporating it into Australian spec models is beyond me - given Suzuki and Hyundai can offer it on certain models, and other VAG brands such as Audi and Porsche also do. I assume as a result they are forced to disable it so as not to breach legal requirements. Obviously there are ways around this, but software updates from VW may again disable it.

[wasabiz]

Why would you want to pay $50 for something you have already got?

Well, if it saves me from the trouble of fighting with them and having the feature kept in there on service. Why not. I'm a lazy guy hahaha

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[DV52]

I have no idea what the licence fees to SUNA are, but it may be $50 per vehicle.


Why VW aren't paying this and incorporating it into Australian spec models is beyond me - given Suzuki and Hyundai can offer it on certain models, and other VAG brands such as Audi and Porsche also do. I assume as a result they are forced to disable it so as not to breach legal requirements. Obviously there are ways around this, but software updates from VW may again disable it.

Dutch77:
Like many of the other responses here, I also think that the advice that flight's dealer gave him (her?) is absolute rubbish (whether applied per car, or per car-per year, or as a total fee). no disrespect intended to flight

On a totally different tack, it might just be that VW's decision to omit TMC on the Golf mkVII is more about product differentiation. That is, VW might want to "reserve" this feature in Australia for their more prestigious cars (i.e. Audi/Porsche). VW's thinking might be that if they allow TMC on the Golf, it will "de-value" their more expensive cars. I'm not saying that I agree, but I've found that VW's optioning policy on cars (especially in Australia) is a stange and mystical thing! In the end though, I agree with your hypothesis that ultimately the market and the practices of VW's competitors will prevail!

As to VW disabling TMC at the next service, isn't it just a matter of re-doing the VCDS tweak (which ain't hard- if you have a cable, or if you have access to someone that has a cable, or if you join a forum like VWW)?

[flight]

Dutch77:
Like many of the other responses here, I also think that the advice that flight's dealer gave him (her?) is absolute rubbish (whether applied per car, or per car-per year, or as a total fee). no disrespect intended to flight

A point of clarification for you DV52: The dealer quote was supplied by Lambertia. My response to that quote was in complete agreement with you. Lambertia's dealer was inventing a licence fee on the run or just spouting nonsense.

Also, fyi flight is very definitely male.

MY new Golf TDI should reach me within two weeks. Whoo Hooo!

[Lupo]

What if it is not a case of VW disabling traffic updates but rather the supplier doing it. Based on veew's correspondance with Customer Care it looks like VW and the supplier - SUNA? - don't have a service contract and once SUNA has enough of supplying free traffic updates, they might disable the code all together.

[Dutch77]

I'm certainly not suggesting lambertia's dealer was correct, but a quick read of SUNA's website indicates licensing agreements and they obviously need to generate income from somewhere.