Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[lenojd]

Yeah, I was disappointed as soon as I read that part! Was excited for the like for like review/comparison which is was not in the end!

Will check out the one you've referred to. Cheers

[lavs]

So do we have a release date for the R in Australia? I'm considering buying a used mk6 or or waiting for the new one.....any thoughts?

[Ryan_R]

So far we've heard Q2 2014

[Alex31]

Took an A45 AMG for a spin yesterday. The new golf R has a lot of work cut out for it. The A45 was a dead set mind blower... And not as harsh riding as I had thought it was going to be. With a good list of standard inclusions and the dealer said it was $80,800 drive away, that is a lot more than the golf but it is a lot more of a weapon too.

[Longy]

Took an A45 AMG for a spin yesterday. The new golf R has a lot of work cut out for it. The A45 was a dead set mind blower... And not as harsh riding as I had thought it was going to be. With a good list of standard inclusions and the dealer said it was $80,800 drive away, that is a lot more than the golf but it is a lot more of a weapon too.

Are Mercedes Benz sales people pushy? Or is it straight forward to test drive the A45 AMG, just drop by and ask to test drive it?

Tossing up between Audi S3 sedan or Golf R at the moment.

[irossiter]

I've found the Two Merc dealers I've been to very nice indeed. They weren't pushy at all. Make nice lattes as well
They were very happy to arrange longer test drives. Just for my wife and I.
Then spent 1 hour answering questions about the car and all it's features.
As you can probably tell, I've switched to the dark side and will be picking up an A250 this week. Wish I could afford an A45!!
Dad and I drove one (for him) and can say that it was easily the fastest car I've ever (and probably WILL EVER) drive. 4.4 secs to 100 doesn't tell half the story. Incredibly charismatic as well. This is where VW have lost me I'm afraid. Beautifully engineered cars inside and out but look identical to the Mk6 and haven't moved the game forward. I think the Golf will win Wheels Car of the Year and deserve to but I wanted something different this time.
I think the new Golf R would be a better day to day car for comfort but the A45 is on a completely different performance level.
I think Audi are even more recalcitrant than VW with moving the game forward.
I think the new GTI is a brilliant car. I think the Golf R will be a brilliant car. The A45 is an AMAZING car but no where near as liveable day to day as the VW's. I think the suspension in the A250 is still too firm but I'm happy to live with it. For me the Merc has the charisma missing for the Golfs. Can't lose any way you go.

[jdbrown1953]

I've found the Two Merc dealers I've been to very nice indeed. They weren't pushy at all. Make nice lattes as well
They were very happy to arrange longer test drives. Just for my wife and I.
Then spent 1 hour answering questions about the car and all it's features.
As you can probably tell, I've switched to the dark side and will be picking up an A250 this week. Wish I could afford an A45!

What options did you select for the A250?

[lenojd]

Congrats on the purchase

[irossiter]

The A250 has standard bi-xenons with LED running lights, 18 inch alloys, DSG auto, man made suede seats with red stitching, park assist, reversing camera, panoramic sunroof, proper! looking fake carbon fibre dash trim, tinted glass (back windows), electric folding mirrors from $49,990 before on roads
I've added AMG exclusive package, driving assistance and Command packages
I'm very happy but I think the GTI and R will be fantastic cars as well but VW are taking their customers a bit for granted at the moment.
A very large percentage of A Class buyers (particularly A250 sport) have come from Golf GTI.
Would be nice if Merc Australia offered the 4 MATIC version of the A250 like they do in Europe because I can't afford $83,000 for an A45!

[R36FTW]

Mercedes A45 AMG vs Audi S3 vs BMW M135i: CAR Giant Test (2013) | Road Testing Reviews | Car Magazine Online


hmmm interesting:

WRX STI and Evo IX ran turbochargers the size of an infant’s head, causing serious throttle lag followed by even more serious forward thrust. In the wake of these two wild, winged warriors the motor industry has learned a lot about the art of turbocharging, virtually eliminating delay to throttle orders in the process. At least that’s what we thought before setting off on the trails of Hannibal in these highly tuned triplets. No more turbo lag? Hop into the S3 and the ancient vice is back, large as life and annoying. The extra-cost S-tronic may to an extent cushion the effect, but in the manual version one must change down early to keep at least the bottom two LEDs of the boost gauge lit most of the time.

People sook about turbo lag like no tomorrow. Does no one understand how a turbo works? No lag = tiny turbo with small turbine and compressor and a small hotside. However, this means it'll choke at higher exhaust flow levels and power tapers off, then everyone complains there's not enough power. You cannot have it all with turbocharging. I have an evo with a size up from the stock turbo, seriously, they aren't that big. More like stock VW and Audi turbos are tiny. Driving a turbo car is something you get used to and once you learn the car, you can drive them smoothly.