Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[mp2811]

G TODD, best advice re tuning is get a tune with local support and good customer service. If you are reasonably located to Muller and Muller then I'd recommend visiting them and going APR. They probably have the best customer feedback around recently.

APR probably has the runs on board with stage 1 tune with highest numbers, backed up with 1/4 mile times. Jb1 is great for tuning box and most likely best option to retain warranty.

YOu also have Mark at recode who does custom tuning, one of best in business by reviews.

The you have option of Unitronic if you want to flash/unflash from home.

Do you want tuning box, flash tune, tune from home or custom tune? I personally would pick custom tune, I have APR stage 1 and stage 2 running perfectly since first release but I'm in melbourne and no custom options that I'm aware of.

In next few weeks I'll be swapping to the new OEM+ tune as I lost my 2 local APR dealers when all the issues occurred back in April. So I'm swapping to get tune with local support, dealer that's my mechanic now and have good rapport with.

[G TODD]

Thanks mp2811 will check out Muller & Muller Syd I also have heard of Volksmuller Syd are they connected in anyway, maybe they have a few workshops around the Syd metro! Once again thanks for your advice. Regards G.T.

[SevenR]

APR probably has the runs on board with stage 1 tune with highest numbers, backed up with 1/4 mile times. Jb1 is great for tuning box and most likely best option to retain warranty.

I would love to see some fair comparisons between these two

since I have 5 years of warranty left, I will probably just go with the JB1 - results of about 370hp & 510Nm at the crank seem possible with just the jb1 & good for mid to low 12's on the 1/4 - which would be fine for me.

[Lams]

just bear in mind tuning box is an interceptor - it fools signals to the ECU, plainly speaking, it would tell the ECU it's only got 10psi boost so the ECU would up the boost back to where it thinks it should be. Yes good for the ability to remove it and install it as needed, but it'll never be as good as a full flash tune which has more precise control of more engine parameters.

[SevenR]

yes, I'm fully aware of the differences - I also had a JB4 on a twin turbo bmw 335i a couple of years ago - that turned into an absolute animal with just that mod alone. I understand the gains on the R won't be quite as good as on the 3.0 N54, but if it come close as I suspect - I will be happy with that.
thanks

[mp2811]

Thanks mp2811 will check out Muller & Muller Syd I also have heard of Volksmuller Syd are they connected in anyway, maybe they have a few workshops around the Syd metro! Once again thanks for your advice. Regards G.T.

I think they are one and the same or Mullerhaus. I think Paul Muller is the main person to contact. Just check out Mk7R owners of facebook. They have 10% sale at present too.

[mp2811]

SevenR, I have nothing against JB1, George is great with customer service and havent heard anything negative about it. Only draw back is that tuning box, not proper tune. I think they do it very well and results great. Very close to flash tunes and more than enough power/torque. Best option for you with 5 year warranty for sure.

[SevenR]

yeah, I didnt mean to make it sound like I was being critical of your opinion mp2811, because I agree with you!

cheers

[AdamD]

yes, I'm fully aware of the differences - I also had a JB4 on a twin turbo bmw 335i a couple of years ago - that turned into an absolute animal with just that mod alone. I understand the gains on the R won't be quite as good as on the 3.0 N54, but if it come close as I suspect - I will be happy with that.
thanks

There's so much more to a tune or piggyback than whether it produces enough power for your tastes. It's as much about maintaining an appropriate (safe) fuel/air mixture, timing and advance, as it is raw power and torque. I don't want to turn this into a tuning discussion (again, check out the tuning and performance section - loads of detailed threads in there on the subject), but given the well-documented history of R and GTI turbo failures, and an understanding of how tuning boxes increase performance based on a limited subset of sensor inputs and by adjusting a subset of performance-improving parameters, there's no way I'd let one within 50 feet of my engine.

[SevenR]

the turbo's have gone through many revisons since some failures happened - one of the reasons I bought the newest R I could (april 16 build), so your audi might be at more risk than my car even with a JB1
flash tunes can be done poorly too dont forget & if/when I get another Juicebox I might put the car on a dyno to check AFR's and plug it into a knockbox. Like I said, I ran my 335i on a JB & had nothing but a great experience - Its fine by me if you wouldnt touch one.