Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[Paul_R]

WJ has a link to an article in the Mk 6 GTI vs R thread.

Golf R will have 210kW, 380Nm, 1200kg!!!, better exhaust note and better Haldex system.

I'm excited...

[AdamD]

This is the link...

New VW Golf R heads seven new models | Autocar

...and it's pure fiction on the weight front. 1350-1400kg depending on doors, transmission and spec is my guess. (The 2013 Audi S3 3-door weighs 1395kg.)

[skartua858]

might get restricted down here ?

[cktsi]

So look to the just announced S3 stats for pointers to the R

2014 Audi S3 Sportback 5-door Unveiled, On Sale In Australia Late In 2013 | Reviews | Prices | Australian specifications

The S3's improvement is not enough. It is abt to get its arse kicked badly by this

Mercedes A 45 AMG Hot Hatch Revealed: Power, Features And Specifications | Reviews | Prices | Australian specifications

I would think the S3 would be priced close to the A45 AMG in which case there is no contest.

Golf R will have it good being at a much lower price point.

[Daz85]

The S3's improvement is not enough. It is abt to get its arse kicked badly by this

Mercedes A 45 AMG Hot Hatch Revealed: Power, Features And Specifications | Reviews | Prices | Australian specifications

I would think the S3 would be priced close to the A45 AMG in which case there is no contest.

Golf R will have it good being at a much lower price point.

I Don't think the S3 is meant to compete with the A45, 70k vs 80-90k. Audi still needs to release the RS3 which should closely match the A45.

[alebonau]

serious looking seats on the a45, but seriously I dont think this is golf r territory, in some ways the a45 has bought the golf r a life and will let it carve its own niche if merc do go for the $80k + pricing on the a45

[Ryan_R]

That's more an Audi RS3 competitor let alone an S3 or R. Especially given the performance figures.

[Deadpool]

That's more an Audi RS3 competitor let alone an S3 or R. Especially given the performance figures.

Too bad we can't get it here due to ADR approval.

[pologti18t]

Too bad we can't get it here due to ADR approval.

the current RS3 is a bit a one trick pony

[cktsi]

I just checked redbook, and the S3 is currently $71,200. If someone was walking around with $71,200 to spend, is $80k that much of a stretch between the S3 and the A45? I don't think there's enough pricing daylight between the two vehicles is my point.

I would argue that to make the price comparison fair, you would spec up the S3 to match the A45. We know the A250 comes with a standard sunroof. Adding a sunroof to the S3 brings it to $74k.... so the value proposition in favour of the A45 becomes even greater.

I would agree the RS3 is a closer & fairer comparison specification wise, but unless Audi does something about the pricing I can't see how it would touch the A45.

Back on topic, the R (assuming it was to retain its pricing) is in a far more comfortable position than the S3