Would be gr8 if that turns out Whistler, but I think its unlikely given the new S3 is being detuned for Oz (and R surely will not trump the S3)
I have a family friend who works for Skoda in the UK.
He told me last week that VW are "revising power output" for the R as a result of Mercedes releasing the A's full specs.
Could get interesting...
Would be gr8 if that turns out Whistler, but I think its unlikely given the new S3 is being detuned for Oz (and R surely will not trump the S3)
Yep, I suspect you are all correct. But if he is righ, we in our "hot climate" would likely miss out. I don't expect they'd try to do any damage to the S3 sales, but heck, when the MkVI R was released in the UK is was £1000's more than their base S3 there - which has less kit than our S3s
It might also make sense to at least close the performance gap with the A45.
As for not being a competitor with the A45?
1. I'm considering both for my next drive.
2. The price gap will be less in the uk & Europe than here.
Just as likely it's only office gossip at Skoda though...
No where have I said the R will match the A45's performance. We're talking about competing for sales, not on the drag-strip. Just suggesting they will compete (sales-wise) for two valid reasons.
The suggestion is that to have the R compete moreso VW have looked at upping the power (slightly?) to close the differential. 60kw is a big difference for what will be a $10,000 difference in price in the uk, Europe and possibly less in the us
Audi S3 - 60K + ORC (DSG standard)
AUSmotive.com » OFFICIAL: Audi S3 Sportback priced from $59,900
It would suggest that a Golf R will be significantly under that price
UPDATE: Audi Australia has confirmed with us that a 6-speed manual transmission will be available as a no cost option, but it will cost you 0.4s to 100km/h and a few extra bucks at the fuel pump.
^ Indeed, looks like a 'base' R' (ie now inc nav, leather etc) $50k - perhaps with a similar performance pack (19's, recraros,, dynaudio, ACC) a $5k add on a la S3. I'm liking the new value equation in the hot hatch market![]()
Last edited by andrew7; 24-07-2013 at 08:47 PM.
You see, with our smallish market, VWA are having to do some tricks here and there. They will make the GTI really cheap, no PP, not many options and they will leave it quite spartan equipment wise. Now the void above it will be filled with the Golf R. Expect it to be for around 49-50 drive-away from what they hinted to us today.
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I hope 19's are not part of a fixed options pack. I don't want them. The Drive article on the S3 indicates it's extras pack comes with different 18's, presumably 19's are extra again. The way it should be. This emphatuation with over large wheels is marketing wank gone made at the expense of common sense engineering.
Otherwise value does look good. About time Australia had some price competition.
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