Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[Rogue wolf]

Disagree Andrew, from following the market of Golf GTi/R the past year, any well optioned manuals with good Km's where snapped up quick & at the same prices as DSG models, there's definitely a market for manual models.

Only downside "imo" to the new R is the front looks absolutely gay, no aggressive look & that chrome strip is ugly, looks like there targeting a very mature market this time around, will be interesting when it comes to resale this time around if the buyers are still as eager as the mk6 models, as I've said previously I haven't seen one in person yet & may change my mind when I do, but looking at that pic of the blue R posted that front is just awful, wouldn't be surprised if they give the R a face lift in 1-2 years (personal opinion, no offence to those who have bought)

[AdamD]

GTI PP (DSG) 1364kg (carsales)
R (Manual) 1416kg (carsales)
R (DSG) 1435kg (carsales)

S3 Manual: 1425kg
S3 DSG: 1445kg

So the S3 is approximately 10kg heavier than the equivalent R.

[andrew7]

RW, take your point re manual second hand market, it may be there, its clearly not what the market the GTI and R are targeted at.

Re looks subjective as always, people as a rule dont like change (initially torrents of criticism of the MK6 R v's MK5R32 as you may recall but i suspect before your time The MK7 R is a change but still a classy, mature looking evolution of the MK6 (sharper lines, no LED lights on lower bumper seems the biggest criticism which is no biggie), plenty of boy racer cars out there if you want something more overtly aggressive, actually looks much much better in the flesh, and most importantly the power, drive, engine/exhaust/induction sound, handling and chassis are streets ahead of the MK6 R (if its looks are not doing it for you then the drive is angry/tough enough i can assure you), and after all its the drive thats key is'nt it? Go and have a look, have a drive, then make an assessment. If you dont like it, grab a manual STI then you've ticked manual and aggressive/boy racer looks so win/win

[Longy]

S3 Manual: 1425kg
S3 DSG: 1445kg

So the S3 is approximately 10kg heavier than the equivalent R.

The S3 is over 1500kg according to the official Audi PDF:

http://www.audi.com.au/etc/medialib/....0014.File.pdf

[Dutch77]

RW, take your point re manual second hand market, it may be there, its clearly not what the market the GTI and R are targeted at.

Re looks subjective as always, people as a rule dont like change (initially torrents of criticism of the MK6 R v's MK5R32 as you may recall but i suspect before your time The MK7 R is a change but still a classy, mature looking evolution of the MK6 (sharper lines, no LED lights on lower bumper seems the biggest criticism which is no biggie)..

A buyer chasing a manual will obviously be keen on limited stock which may occasionally help boost prices for certain vehicles but on the whole I'd still suggest the second hand market would be similar to the new market for that vehicle and therefore the majority will be seeking DSG. Keeping in mind also that over the last 6-9 months the market hasn't been overly kind on DSG vehicles because of the issues last year.

Looks are definitely subjective. You only have to revisit comments when the GTI concept was released to hear the Mk6 people bagging it, locally and overseas. I was almost in that camp, but overtime it has grown on me and I am now a big fan. Same as the R, I'm still not convinced about the front bar particularly in white but overall I'm liking it. I'm even starting to think the Cadiz wheels aren't so bad after all.. (but no, I'm not accepting the PP wheels or red lines through lights).

[AdamD]

The S3 is over 1500kg according to the official Audi PDF:

http://www.audi.com.au/etc/medialib/....0014.File.pdf

The PDF doesn't quote Kerb Weight, it quotes Unladen Weight:

Unladen vehicle weight includes driver (68kg), 7kg of luggage and fuel tank 90% full, calculated in accordance with the current version of EC Directive 92/21/EEC.

The figures I quoted are from Redbook (and Carsales), and are the Kerb Weight figures. Kerb Weight is defined as "the total weight of a vehicle with standard equipment, all necessary operating consumables (e.g., motor oil and coolant), a full tank of fuel, while not loaded with either passengers or cargo." (source: Wikipedia.)

Hence the 75kg discrepancy.

[Rogue wolf]

Before my time? Haha in not 12

Not about wanting boy racer style & a big no thanks to a Subaru, but give me a a45 & I won't complain lol, just stating the R is classed as a sports hatch & at $60k+ it should have some aggressiveness to it, nothing over the top but just enough when your driving others look & think nice it's an R, not oh is that the R lol, it's just that front grill I'm having a go at rest of the car looks good, & awesome engine I'm sure, the gti looks nice & the r 400 looks nice, yet the R for whatever reason they chose a gay front grill imo, but your right I should see one in person as I'm just going on pics, already stated I'm not buying a R just posting out of interest as I like VW's but I do think gti/r are a tad overpriced

Anyway it's all personal opinion in the end, if we all liked the same thing it would be a boring world..

[kennyc]

(but no, I'm not accepting the PP wheels or red lines through lights).

The wheels i agree with, but i actually like the red lines through the lights. I think i am the only one from what i have heard from other people.

[pcho]

Do I see Alcantara seats sekas? If so, please do snap some pics once you get the car. I'm trying to decide whether leather is a worthwhile option. I'm leaning towards no, but I've struggled to find decent pics on line to assist in the decision making process. Interestingly, I was advised that the first round of cars were all delivered with leather; perhaps yours is part of a second batch?



In other news, the R400 has been confirmed for production.

Link

Hi MattyMcfly,

Collected my MK7 R on Tuesday. Hope this is what you are looking for

Perry

[Dutch77]

^ so they are the standard R seats? I like the finish on those.. would be happy to skip leather unless I got a really good deal/it was on an unassigned car.

Is that a tasty Merc I see in the garage btw?