Mk7.5 Golf - News and Discussion Thread

[iNcHeS]

Is it a VW dealer or a used car dealer? I would always reccomend a specialist does the service as generally they are cheaper.

If the dealer is a VW dealer than have them do the free service for you as the workshops are guided by processes and it would be hard for the apprentice to screw it up.

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Used car dealer In saying that, I will be getting the volkwerke inspection done AFTER the dealer services it, if they do...

[Prins]

Hi, first time poster here.

My son want's to buy a 2019 VW Golf Mk7.5 with 160K Km on it. I just want to know what to look out for specifically to determine if it's a good buy. This will be his first car and I'm not really familiar with Golf Mk7.5, all I'm reading from the internet is the DSG issues with the Golf.

With that, what do I tell him to look out for when inspecting and testing the car? I've seen the Service Logbook and no mention that DSG Gearbox oil has been changed. Weird thing is it was serviced by VW Dealership. Would that be a dealbreaker if DSG oil has not been changed since new? Thanks!

[DV52]

Prins:Hi.

hmm........ I'm personally not convinced that the "DSG issues with Golfs" are a real thing!

Don't get me wrong - I'm sure that some (even a few) Golfs have suffered DSG problems - but the trouble with "reading from the internet" is that you ONLY hear about the bad-side of stuff. Very few folk write posts on the web when stuff goes right!! So yes, DSG problems have arisen - but how many actually go pear-shape in the total number of Golfs sold? I don't know!!

Anyway, ultimately it's a gamble no matter what used-car your son purchases - as is the chance of any other component in the car failing!!

My advice (for what it's worth) is forget about what has happened to other cars on the net and have your son focus on what IS happening to the actual car that he is intending to buy! By this I mean -I suggest that you ask the car, itself to tell you its health!!

As you may be aware, this Golf constantly monitors its own health and it stores a fulsome report of it's finding in computer memory. I've never understood why so many 2nd-hand car-buyers ignore this valuable resource when it's just sitting in the car waiting to be accessed!

This health report is far better than service reports and it's far more reliable than the seller's hyperbole because it's up-to-date, its complete and it does NOT tell porkies!!

Of course even with a good health report (meaning a SCAN with no errors)- there still can be no guarantees about bad stuff happening in the future. But at least a SCAN can draw a line in the sand and provide a snap-shot of how the car is feeling when the report is taken.

The bad part of getting a health report from the Golf is that a diagnostic device is needed to pull the data from the computer network in the car. The actual process isn't difficult - but you will need to find someone with a tool to extract the information.

I note that you live in Melbourne. Because this is your first post - maybe send me a PM and we can arrange something (I own a few diagnostic devices- so you can choose which tool you prefer)

Don

[Prins]

Prins:Hi.

hmm........ I'm personally not convinced that the "DSG issues with Golfs" are a real thing!

Don't get me wrong - I'm sure that some (even a few) Golfs have suffered DSG problems - but the trouble with "reading from the internet" is that you ONLY hear about the bad-side of stuff. Very few folk write posts on the web when stuff goes right!! So yes, DSG problems have arisen - but how many actually go pear-shape in the total number of Golfs sold? I don't know!!

Anyway, ultimately it's a gamble no matter what used-car your son purchases - as is the chance of any other component in the car failing!!

My advice (for what it's worth) is forget about what has happened to other cars on the net and have your son focus on what IS happening to the actual car that he is intending to buy! By this I mean -I suggest that you ask the car, itself to tell you its health!!

As you may be aware, this Golf constantly monitors its own health and it stores a fulsome report of it's finding in computer memory. I've never understood why so many 2nd-hand car-buyers ignore this valuable resource when it's just sitting in the car waiting to be accessed!

This health report is far better than service reports and it's far more reliable than the seller's hyperbole because it's up-to-date, its complete and it does NOT tell porkies!!

Of course even with a good health report (meaning a SCAN with no errors)- there still can be no guarantees about bad stuff happening in the future. But at least a SCAN can draw a line in the sand and provide a snap-shot of how the car is feeling when the report is taken.

The bad part of getting a health report from the Golf is that a diagnostic device is needed to pull the data from the computer network in the car. The actual process isn't difficult - but you will need to find someone with a tool to extract the information.

I note that you live in Melbourne. Because this is your first post - maybe send me a PM and we can arrange something (I own a few diagnostic devices- so you can choose which tool you prefer)

Don

Thanks Don! I just asked my son and the car he is interested in just sold. I will PM you if he can find another Golf that he can afford. Thanks again!

[Lucas_R]

Hi, first time poster here.

My son want's to buy a 2019 VW Golf Mk7.5 with 160K Km on it. I just want to know what to look out for specifically to determine if it's a good buy. This will be his first car and I'm not really familiar with Golf Mk7.5, all I'm reading from the internet is the DSG issues with the Golf.

With that, what do I tell him to look out for when inspecting and testing the car? I've seen the Service Logbook and no mention that DSG Gearbox oil has been changed. Weird thing is it was serviced by VW Dealership. Would that be a dealbreaker if DSG oil has not been changed since new? Thanks!

Somewhat irrelevant now because you say the car has been sold - but assuming its just a lower spec Golf with the 1.4L turbo engine, the DSG gearbox's fitted to these models are quite fragile. (a 7 speed dry clutch transmission referred to as the DQ200 transmission). The arch nemesis of this gearbox is the cost saving "dry clutch" design which really suffers in stop-start traffic and hill starts - leading to the clutches overheating which causes them to shudder and wear out prematurely. VW list he oil in this gearbox as "lifetime oil" but this is garbage and it would be a good idea to have the oil replaced by a VW specialist workshop.

Lots of Golf's with this DQ200 gearbox have had issues with the clutches and/or the mechatronics which is the computerised brain that controls the gearbox.

Given this particular car has done 160,000km in 4 years then I suspect its either a country car or has spent a lot of time on the motorway - which in the case of this gearobx, is the best conditions for it as there is very little opportunity for stop-start traffic. If, on the other hard, if this car has been used for Uber/Doordash etc then it's no doubt been in a lot of stop-start traffic.....one of the risks of a 2nd hand car is that you will never know it's previous life.

The diesels and high performance Golfs (GTI and R) use a much more robust DSG gearbox (still a 7 speed unit, but a wet clutch design and referred to as the DQ381) which is very reliable and has no problems in stop-start traffic, unlike the DQ200 used in the lower-spec Golf's.

VW has been using the problematic DQ200 gearbox since 2011 or so and the amount of issues and failures is incredible.

My advice for your son would be to avoid buying a car with this DQ200 transmission.