MK6 -v- MK7 : Golf GTI

[Guy]

How is APR tune with new mk7? must be good!?

[Mountainman]

My Golf 7 GTI oil temp is at 95 degrees when the old MK6 Golf GTI was at 80 degrees. WJ

Doesn't that depend on ambient temperatures and the type of driving being done? My 90 TSI sits on 95 degrees in winter day temps of around 15 degrees but in summer now it is around 102 degrees and has gone as high as 108 degrees when it was cruising at 110km/h in 46 degrees last summer and reached an all time high of 111 degrees when climbing some ranges in 3rd gear in 38 degrees temps. It hasn't made it use any oil in its 56,000km of driving though in the last 17 months.

[donweather]

I was highway driving the other day in Brisbane and my oil temp was 108 deg (TSI RS Occy). Thought that was a little high.

[hoi polloi]

Noticed my oil temps tended to trend down over time as the engine ran in...

- Anthony

[thezoneR32]

Hey WJ hows your fuel consumption? Is it in line with manufacturers claims?

[WhiteJames]

The Golf 7 GTI is designed to run hotter than the previous MK6 Golf GTI. My understanding is that the MK6 was designed to run between 95-105 degree with thermostat fully closed at 95 degrees and fully open at 105 degrees, with the medium being 100 degrees. The Golf 7 GTI is supposed to run higher at 110 degrees apparently to reduce frictional losses, making the motor more efficient.

The difference in warm up from Golf 7 GTI (95 degrees) compared to the MK6 GTI (80 degrees) was done many times. The ambient temp doesn't make much of a difference in this respect. Nor does it make a great deal of difference between mid winter & mid summer when doing a 12-15 min steep mountain climb up Macquarie Pass - perhaps 2-3 degrees max difference.

I know that climbing the Macquarie Pass inland of Wollongong had the old MK6 GTI at 113 degrees in winter and 115 degrees in summer. Others say that their MK6 Golf GTI was about 115 degree oil temp towards the end of a 20 min session at Wakefield Park in Winter. So the mountain climb run-in with revs between 2-4,000rpm with light throttle application is putting a good amount of load on the piston & rings for a good bedding in process.

I haven't monitored fuel economy closely, but generally the Golf 7 seems to be more efficient by about 0.5 - 0.8 litre per 100km. Mind you, I have a Manual Trans with no options on the Golf 7 GTI that is considerably lighter than my reasonably well optioned DSG MK6 GTI (1320 kgs -v- 1380kgs approx). Fuel consumption is way over manufacturer's claim, but I would be confident in getting near the stated claim on a long highway interstate freeway trip, perhaps within 0.5 litre per 100km.

I was going to test drive a PP GTI to compare to my Std Golf 7 GTI Manual Trans during service time, but the local dealer didn't have a demo PP GTI available for comparison, so no review on the PP GTI for now.

WJ

[nat225]

The Golf 7 GTI is designed to run hotter than the previous MK6 Golf GTI. My understanding is that the MK6 was designed to run between 95-105 degree with thermostat fully closed at 95 degrees and fully open at 105 degrees, with the medium being 100 degrees. The Golf 7 GTI is supposed to run higher at 110 degrees apparently to reduce frictional losses, making the motor more efficient.

The difference in warm up from Golf 7 GTI (95 degrees) compared to the MK6 GTI (80 degrees) was done many times. The ambient temp doesn't make much of a difference in this respect. Nor does it make a great deal of difference between mid winter & mid summer when doing a 12-15 min steep mountain climb up Macquarie Pass - perhaps 2-3 degrees max difference.

I know that climbing the Macquarie Pass inland of Wollongong had the old MK6 GTI at 113 degrees in winter and 115 degrees in summer. Others say that their MK6 Golf GTI was about 115 degree oil temp towards the end of a 20 min session at Wakefield Park in Winter. So the mountain climb run-in with revs between 2-4,000rpm with light throttle application is putting a good amount of load on the piston & rings for a good bedding in process.

I haven't monitored fuel economy closely, but generally the Golf 7 seems to be more efficient by about 0.5 - 0.8 litre per 100km. Mind you, I have a Manual Trans with no options on the Golf 7 GTI that is considerably lighter than my reasonably well optioned DSG MK6 GTI (1320 kgs -v- 1380kgs approx). Fuel consumption is way over manufacturer's claim, but I would be confident in getting near the stated claim on a long highway interstate freeway trip, perhaps within 0.5 litre per 100km.

I was going to test drive a PP GTI to compare to my Std Golf 7 GTI Manual Trans during service time, but the local dealer didn't have a demo PP GTI available for comparison, so no review on the PP GTI for now.

WJ

I remember u testing and reviewing the 86 / brz. Why didnt you go with the rwd 86 / brz and chose a manual mk7 gti instead?

[Moonee]

Fuel consumption is way over manufacturer's claim

That's been my experience also. I'm hoping the explanation in my case is a tight (<200Km) engine.

[mpanza]

Go see Keith @ Mascot for a deal! ps i sent you!

[WhiteJames]

86/BRZ do not have adaptive dampers for a start. Here's a video showing that semi-active adaptive dampers on an Audi S3 sedan really do make your VAG vehicle go faster around a track. Okay ... maybe the throttle response has something to do with the lap times in addition to the suspension tune:

Audi S3 Sedan Review | CarAdvice

WJ