Still can't find the other Golf 7: GTI -v- R thread ... so here's a car advice.com.au comparison between the STI -v- Golf R:
Sports car comparison : Subaru WRX STI v Audi S3 v Volkswagen Golf R | CarAdvice
Crap fuel economy for STI compared to the Volkswagen!
WJ
Re: Fuel Economy ... Golf R gives you more for less ... now that's has to be a good thing. On that subject ... here's a review from Motor Trend.com showing how lethal the Golf GTI - PP can be around the figure 8 and under emergency braking tests:
Time Bandits: Four Sporty Ways to Cheat the Clock - Motor Trend Page 2
I'm still thinking that the Manual Transmission Golf GTI - PP is the pick of the Golf bunch!
WJ
Don't know much about the Audi S1. Looks to be the goods on paper and most probably a future classic, provided you don't go crazy with aftermarket gear. It weighs about the same as a base spec Golf GTI with a higher centre of gravity due to smaller footprint. Wait for the reviews I guess.
Speaking of Audi:
I had the opportunity to visit the Audi HQ and Museum in Ingolstadt, Germany (just over one hour train ride from Munich). Wow ... great little museum with an opportunity to tour the last hour of vehicle production in the neighbouring factory. The bistro for lunch was also great and reasonably priced. On the concourse, they had all types of Audi's from A1 to R10 with only one omission, the Audi S1.
I compared the Audi S3 which looks a bit aftermarket with extra skirting compared to the regular A3 with S-Line package that looks cleaner and neater imo.
The Audi A6 estate/wagon is really popular in Germany. They say that Audi earns about half of VW-Audi profits these days, and it shows in the quality of their vehicles, factories and museum.
Ingolstadt city is also a nice clean city with some nice platz/pedestrian ways/shops/cafes.
I also visited BMW HQ in Munich and Porsche HQ and Museum in Stuttgart. The Deutches Technical Museum, Munich is still the best for technical stuff of all types.
WJ
Last edited by WhiteJames; 14-07-2014 at 10:06 PM.
Here's why I drive the base Golf GTI ... it's the lightest. Just like this Audi S3 Sedan that smacks the WRX STI in a straight line ... the Audi is 100 kgs lighter than the STI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mo8QZxJKGw
I see that there is a fella on this forum trading in his damaged Golf 7 R for a Golf GTI PP ... I thought that the firm ride would be taxing after a while in the Golf 7 R. The GTI on the other hand hit the bulls-eye for that balance between comfort & sportiness.
WJ
^ That fella would be me WJ The proviso being that I will drive them back to back before deciding. I do head to the snow 3-4 weekends a year but AWD for this reason alone might be a stretch in pumping for the R. The R has a pretty well sorted ride but I would like to try the GTI PP for the purported fantastic ride and handling and see if the performance/grunt loss is worth it.
Fair enough. Maybe this video review will aid your decision on which hot hatch?
$40k fun machines video comparison
WJ
I bought my gti 6 months ago from the Sutherland dealership as I am also local, and I couldnt agree more the guys there are bunch of wank jobs. I ended up going straight through the dealer principal and he put together a great deal to make up for his sales team lack of effort. Spirro is the only salesman there that was actually helpful. So if anyone is in the local area I suggest seeing spiro at sutherland as the dealer principal has just accepted a nother role with volkswagen in mascot or parramatta i cant remember which one.
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