Mark 7 Boot Less Depth

[team_v]

So VW can make the Golf hatch less of an all-rounder?

I think not.

I am pretty sure that this change to the boot would qualify the Mark 7 Golf as being in rare, if not exclusive, company indeed: cars that have less usable boot space in a successor model.

How often would a car owner need to utilise 100% of the available boot space vs relative comfort of passengers due to increased cabin space?
I would hazard a guess that the majority of owners/passengers appreciate the extra room far more than they would the extra boot space for 1 or 2 times a year.

As Damien pointed out, if boot space is that essential, you can buy the golf/octavia wagon or the Tiguan.

[Arnold]

Typical VWW comment...that treats a comment on ONE aspect of the car (boot size in this case) as if it should be allowed to trump all others, eg:

If you think a particular Golf is not good value, then buy an Hyundai.

If the grip of a Golf is not what you hoped for, buy a 4WD.

If you don't like (unprecedented in history of Golf) reduction in Golf boot depth, buy a wagon that is 300mm to 450mm longer, even if you like the Golf for its Tardis-like properties.

No, reducing the boot size while increasing the overall length of the car is a ****-up by VW and if I do buy a Mark 7 I will exact some measure revenge.

Imagine if the Mark 8 repeated the boot size reduction, and then the Mark 9. Would you still be there saying it is worth the extra legroom when boot depth could have been maintained while increasing legroom?

It is like saying your chances of winning a one-in three guess in the Monty Hall dilemma increase from 33% to 50% depending on the order in which the doors are opened. Does not make sense.

[Arnold]

All new model cars are getting bigger in size but with less space in the cabin.

Without any equivocation I can say either you are making this up or something is not quite right.

[team_v]

Typical VWW comment...that treats a comment on ONE aspect of the car (boot size in this case) as if it should be allowed to trump all others, eg:

If you think a particular Golf is not good value, then buy an Hyundai.

If the grip of a Golf is not what you hoped for, buy a 4WD.

If you don't like (unprecedented in history of Golf) reduction in Golf boot depth, buy a wagon that is 300mm to 450mm longer, even if you like the Golf for its Tardis-like properties.

No, reducing the boot size while increasing the overall length of the car is a ****-up by VW and if I do buy a Mark 7 I will exact some measure revenge.

Imagine if the Mark 8 repeated the boot size reduction, and then the Mark 9. Would you still be there saying it is worth the extra legroom when boot depth could have been maintained while increasing legroom?

It is like saying your chances of winning a one-in three guess in the Monty Hall dilemma increase from 33% to 50% depending on the order in which the doors are opened. Does not make sense.

You are delusional.
It's called product differentiation and it happeens in almost all successful businesses.
There are a number of cars in the VAG range that suit the requirements you specifically asked for regarding boot space.
When we point them out you argue that it isn't a golf hatch so you don't want it.

Good luck buying a car if you want a golf hatch that does everything better than any targeted VW model.

[Dutch77]

LOL, apparently increasing the cargo space by over 8% while reducing the length of the car was bad planning by VW because they didn't measure all luggage on the market for fitment.

[tigger73]

Well Arnold if you're committed to buying a Golf at expense of everything else then it sounds like you may need to get a low km Mk6 or wait until the Mk8 comes out and hope that has a deeper boot.

When design decisions are made I am certain the marketing dept is involved. As with everything there is a trade-off - rear legroom vs. boot depth. Now I'm guessing that someone at VW said they reckon they will sell more cars if they have 20mm more rear legroom than 20mm more boot depth.

How about you just go and buy yourself a new suitcase that fits. Problem solved

[tigger73]

LOL, apparently increasing the cargo space by over 8% while reducing the length of the car was bad planning by VW because they didn't measure all luggage on the market for fitment.

I know for some Japanese car manufacturers (in particular performance/high end cars) rate the ability to fit a Golf bag in the boot is a critical measurement. If they don't do this they risk losing a large segment of their customer base.

[andrew7]

^ my solution is to by some roof racks and a luggage pod so on the relatively few occasions when I'm fully loaded my R becomes the family 'wagon'

[tigger73]

^ my solution is to by some roof racks and a luggage pod so on the relatively few occasions when I'm fully loaded my R becomes the family 'wagon'

I've done the same thing and put roof racks on the Tig so that when we do go to IKEA with the family and buy something that we hadn't planned on we can still get it home. Roof racks stay on so that they're always there if I need them.

[Arnold]

You are delusional.

Not bad coming from a supposed "moderator".

And yet you're the one who thinks your chances of winning the car in the Monty Hall game increase from 33% to 50% after the host opens one of the doors to reveal a goat. I think that fits the very definition of "delusional".

It's called product differentiation

No it is not; it is called product design, otherwise the Golf brochure would be proclaiming the "new, shorter boot".

and it happeens in almost all successful businesses.

No, **** happens, product differentiation is planned and rarely involves reducing the practicality of any aspect of the design unless there is an offsetting benefit.

There are a number of cars in the VAG range that suit the requirements you specifically asked for regarding boot space. When we point them out you argue that it isn't a golf hatch so you don't want it.

But you conveniently ignore the fact that boot length is the only aspect of the Mark 7 about which I am dissatisfied. Given the Mark 7 is the first Golf to have a reduction in boot length, and by Tigger73's account it has less length than his Mark IV, this is not only remarkable but should give you pause before suggesting alternative cars that over-compensate for the loss of boot length while failing on the count of size (Octavia wagon) and fun factor (Tiguan) to meet all of my other needs.

You also ignore that fact that in your earlier post your suggested alternatives were predicated on boot space being "essential". Well, it is not, we can always buy new luggage, and would rather do that than drive a Tiguan, but such a retrograde design change still makes for an interesting topic of discussion.

Why? Because most people would not have taken the relevant suitcase to their VW dealer as I did yesterday and so those assuming their existing items will fit (as did Tigger73) could benefit from learning of the shorter boot as many have found their wheelchairs and other items did not fit until it was too late.

Good luck buying a car if you want a golf hatch that does everything better than any targeted VW model.

What is a "targeted VW model, team_v"? Do you even know what that string of words means, because I don't. What is the "targeted VW model" you have in mind, team_v? Please do not answer that, I could not stand another tortured explanation.

For me, the Golf is my target car because it checks every box in terms of price, performance, size, fun to drive, available in a manual and its Tardis-like qualities. I just lament the step backwards in boot length such that I cannot fit our existing pair of large suitcases as my Mark V can. Seems like a reasonable lament. Not to you, team_v. You have to moderate by calling me "delusional" and generally missing the point. Bravo!

But then, reasonableness does tend to be at a premium on these pages.