Group Buy: Aftermarket Bixenon Headlights (WinPower Lamps)

**01_GOLF** · 01-08-2014, 04:08 PM

Pretty sure the order has already been put in James, I'm sure someone will organise another group buy after we get ours though

**couchmotorist** · 01-08-2014, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jamestc

Hi All,

I am new to the forum and would be keen to join this group unless it's already closed and no more items can be included. Would you kindly let me know the status.

Thanks

James

Hey Jamestc,
I've been one of the people helping to organize the group buy. Unfortunately our order has gone through but I'd suggest you get hold of mark from Winpower (email mark@wplamps.com) who I dealt with. In the last couple of days I've had a couple of enquiries forwarded to me so I assume there's enough people keen to get a second round going. When people start putting up reviews and installation guides I'm sure interest would pick up even further.
Have a chat to mark and ask him how to best go about it. I can forward you order sheets and instructions if required but the majority of the details are on the earlier posts of this thread, so it should be a matter of copying it across to a new thread

**Jazrod** · 04-08-2014, 02:27 PM

Any news yet? Jittering with anticipation.

**couchmotorist** · 04-08-2014, 02:28 PM

I've sent Mark an email this morning asking him to confirm manufacturing and delivery dates. The last I heard was to start producing today (Mon) and deliverd by Fri. Hopefully I hear back today and I'll let everyone know

**couchmotorist** · 05-08-2014, 05:39 PM

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but production has been pushed back until next week. No clarification on exact days despite our insistence.

This is becoming a bit of a joke.

Veew has kindly touched base again (still busy with other commitments at this stage) and we've sent a rather terse reply back:

"I'm sure I speak for both [both of us] but we rushed the Group Buy to beat this busy period. It should have been your responsibility to ensure there was enough material to actually proceed with production before the end of last month.

I don't think freezing Paypal payments is a satisfactory option but once my exams are completed next week, I will be thoroughly investigating what our options are. As [couchmotorist] mentioned earlier, we rushed this GB for you and therefore we would expect our orders to be treated as a priority...

...To be honest Mark, I'm starting to worry about this transaction. I would have thought this GB would be straight forward considering you've organised a number of group buys in the past.

I'm sure you can see that if this GB does not proceed in a satisfactory manner, many people who have been following my GB thread will see the final outcome, this will affect their confidence in placing orders with you in future.

I hope you will be able to work something out as I'm starting to feel that this may be a big Paypal scam. As I mentioned earlier in one of my emails, I've done all the research to give people confidence to order headlights from you. I'm sure the next 7-10 days will be a crucial time for you to demonstrate if we still have confidence in this transaction."

I think we've got the point across.
We have applied the pressure so I'd be happy to hear feedback. That way I can show Mark how displeased we are and push for some actual commitments.

Sorry, but once again I will keep everyone posted.

**mui_michael** · 05-08-2014, 05:50 PM

Tell Mark both Becautoparts.com and 32Deg.com have these lights for sale now at almost the same price, if Mark DOES NOT give us a promised time frame on these headlights in 24hrs and have them done in 5days I personally will get PayPal to refund my payment as this is becoming a joke. I will also be posting this on any forums I can find. This is my ONE AND ONLY WARNING to Mark@Winpowerlamps!!!

**Jazrod** · 05-08-2014, 05:54 PM

Yeah the organisation on WPs part is ridiculous. First we're told they're ready but the pending payment is holding back, then parts and now this. I was expecting these next week at the latest.

Please keep us posted on his response! 😕😨

And the quality better not be compromised as a result of this!

**couchmotorist** · 05-08-2014, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by mui_michael

Tell Mark both Becautoparts.com and 32Deg.com have these lights for sale now at almost the same price, if Mark DOES NOT give us a promised time frame on these headlights in 24hrs and have them done in 5days I personally will get PayPal to refund my payment as this is becoming a joke. I will also be posting this on any forums I can find. This is my ONE AND ONLY WARNING to Mark@Winpowerlamps!!!

Feel free to let him know. Email to both of these addresses, as his replies seem to come from either one:
mark@wplamps.com, 2925704017@qq.com

Also feel free to provide a link to this forum seeing everyone's displeasure.

Just for people's reference, the reason we ended up going through winpower was because they were the only ones who could make units with RHD reflectors. The rest are LHD (unfortunate as there are numerous options out there).

**couchmotorist** · 05-08-2014, 09:38 PM

We've had a reply:

"I have just talked our boss about our situation and discuss for one hours, we are very disappointed that you think our honesty business as a "scam*", but you could check for any forum in the world, we have very good reputation in the world.

We understand you are just want to received the goods without any delay, but we also you can understand us, we are professional factory, we arrange the production with our company's plan (not me to arrange it). our company will see who is more urgent, then we will make for them. some of our customers already delay for one month.

And i think this week is our crucial time too, that's why we want you to choose DHL, it will faster 2-4days then FedEx, we have delay too long, don't want to delay one more day by the shipment. even one day earlier to reach you, still better for both of us, because *Waiting is the most painful!
*
*Even this is our busy season, but our boss promised me, next week we can surely send to you all. next week, your GB order will be a priority of our company!

Hope you could talk to the GB can trusted us and be patience for one more week, thanks."

They had mentioned earlier about using DHL instead of FedEx (for those who ordered shipping with them) and it seemed the cost wouldn't change. We are just clarifying this as we speak, as any extra costs would likely delay things further whilst we wait for people to decide on whether they would want to pay extra. My feeling is a delay for people's payments would likely outweigh any speed gained through faster shipping. We would also need to check if shipping insurance is as competitive.

If it costs the same and similar insurance, EVERYONE who ordered with FedEx could be changed to DHL; if it costs more, then I would leave things as they are.