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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    My apologies, you sir, are 100% correct
    I'm with you otherwise, as I said in the R thread, credit to VW for actually pushing this into production - we always need more crazy.

    I suspect a $100k price tag might not be far off the mark if it somehow ever did make it here though.

    I'm guessing here, but the 1M is really just carrying a body-kit over the normal 1 series? That may make it a lot easier than in this case where the body modifications seem a lot more extensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkie View Post
    If they build it in RHD it could come here unlike the RS1 and RS3 which was only ever available LHD. I suppose time will tell on the RHD version, but I'd expect the Japanese and South Africans to be yelling loudly at VAG head office by now to get that done ....

    Scirocco did well initially, but it is in reality a niche model and in FWD only form less inviting than what it would have been in AWD form, so as demand dropped VWA's appetite to keep a slow moving model waned as well ....

    A real hero Golf R 400 could sell well and at a decent price (for VWA) to make it worthwhile. 1 prospective customer here already
    RS3 was sold in UK in RHD:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch77 View Post
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    I'm guessing here, but the 1M is really just carrying a body-kit over the normal 1 series? That may make it a lot easier than in this case where the body modifications seem a lot more extensive.
    The 1M basically had all the M3 running gear underneath and the the pumped guards to fit it.

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    The thing is that most of the S/RS models often come at the end of the model run. So the RS4 is on the B8's last legs the moment its out.

    But with the R400, it's still pretty early in the cycle. They could of course make it a special edition but if they are really smart about it, they could come out with a mid-cycle facelift and introduce the new engine (maybe detuned slightly) for MY16 as an across the board change for the Rs. Pricing wise, it's a bit of a squeeze now, not just in Australia but also in Europe, with Mercedes putting downward pressure on all the other makes with their keenly priced A45s, so I am not sure if there is enough breathing space to price the R400 competitively.

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    I would also be putting down a deposit if it became a reality.
    However I highly doubt it will come if we can't even get a non detuned R due to our "weather"
    How could they bring in a 295kw version of the same engine?
    Also ADR would just make it too hard for VGA.
    Pity I would love to have one. Also it would be great to leave that GTS HSV in the dust.




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    I would order one!


    Quote Originally Posted by Alex31 View Post
    I would also be putting down a deposit if it became a reality.
    However I highly doubt it will come if we can't even get a non detuned R due to our "weather"
    How could they bring in a 295kw version of the same engine?
    Also ADR would just make it too hard for VGA.
    Pity I would love to have one. Also it would be great to leave that GTS HSV in the dust.




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    Hi All,
    Please all call your VW dealers or email VWA so they get the idea we want the 400 here.
    I called a mate who is a dealer manager today to tell him i'm 100% in for a car. He's going to speak with VWA to get their comment on a possibility. I'll let you know what he says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex31 View Post
    I would also be putting down a deposit if it became a reality.
    However I highly doubt it will come if we can't even get a non detuned R due to our "weather"
    How could they bring in a 295kw version of the same engine?
    Also ADR would just make it too hard for VGA.
    Pity I would love to have one. Also it would be great to leave that GTS HSV in the dust.




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    It isn't the same engine though (as the MKVI R) - has strengthened internals (according to VW)

    The "detuning" is irrelevant. Even if they take it down a notch, a simple stage 1 tune will return that and more. VW will not launch a model anywhere that is "strung out" - it isn't in their nature.

    Not sure what you mean about the ADR comment as kW/KG is already this high in other vehicles here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch77 View Post
    It was ADRs, the mooted $100k price tag and the fact the model was almost at the end of its life cycle which stopped Australia from taking the last RS3. It was available in RHD - the Brits got it.
    Spot-on there Dutch. With respect to ADRs, the specific problem was that the RS3 utilised CFRP (carbon fibre reinforced polymer) front guards - something that is expressly prohibited by ADRs in Australia. So the factory would have had to produce unique aluminium guards just for the Australian market - something they weren't prepared to do for such small anticipated volumes.

    Gaining ADR compliance for a limited model is not a difficult thing to do, but it does cost money - so obviously VWA will do the sums and work out whether there's a business case for it or not. They haven't even confirmed they'll make it in RHD yet...
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    Is this official? NOt being reported as 100% elsewhere

    Volkswagen reveals new 280km/h Golf R400

    It all hinges on an article Car and Driver logged on April 20 that has been reported on by other news sources

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