Golf Mk7 Officially Revealed !! (Now with First Drive Reviews on page 8)

[Tobes_WIR35]

Although I like the reviewers and reviews on Carbuyer, they have a tendency to be bias towards German cars from what I've seen and read. Something to do with Matt being involved with Auto Express as well. Autocar also sometimes making biased reviews.

Good find though.

I think it's probably fair to say most people who've had the pleasure of driving and owning a German car (or pretty much anything German engineered) tend to have a predisposition towards them, but mostly because they're just simply better. Even German beer!

[Candyman]

So, tiny improvements in some items but the same bland interior and exterior, not a winner in any particular class, still the same flakey DSG and in our case, likely to be deficient in items that much cheaper cars get standard.

Oh well, VW still sell the Golf in numbers so why change the format.

[Tobes_WIR35]

That's the great thing about aesthetics, they're mostly subjective. For example, I really like things that are designed subtly, whereas others like things that are a bit more outlandish. For instance, I really like mid 20th century Scandanavian furniture and architecture because it is so minimalist and geometric. A lot of people cannot understand why I like it because in their eyes it's boring - they would rather the latest funky trend from Freedom. On the other side of the coin I have seen quite a few cars (usually Commodores or Jap coffins) getting around with big bodykits and neon-coloured rims, which I think is the most ridiculous looking thing I have ever seen, but obviously the owners love it.

One man's meat is another man's poison.

RE standard features, yes there are cheaper cars that have all the bells and whistles. The features list in some Hyundai's/Kia's etc is unbelievable for the money. But having the features on paper, and having features that are well engineered, made from quality materials in an ethical and sustainable manner, and that actually work well, is a different ball game. Right down to small details; I was having an up-close look at the headlights of my Golf compared to a Hyundai i45 the other day. The VW's headlight reflectors and plastic castings are almost perfect. The integrity and shape of the reflectors is a mirror finish, with no casting marks/dags whatsoever. The LED modules are so much higher quality you cannot even compare them. The PMMA headlight lense on the Golf, like the reflector, has no casting imperfections at all. The i45 had casting marks, dags and surface imperfections all over it. I don't know what material the lense is made from but I would hazard a guess that it's not as impact resistant as the VW. Most people would say "I don't give a rats about the plastic in the headlights - it's not important" and they are possibly correct. But this same level of quality and engineering goes across the board, the headlight is just an example of something readily visible.

I'm not just talking about VW cars here, but any product in the market place. It's not 100% true that you get what you pay for, but it's probably 95% true.

[Candyman]

This is my second Golf (GTI and now an R)

Overall, they were and are both, great all rounders. I don't mind the styling, I like the subdued look.

However, the design is stagnant. Has been in use for many years across many models.

I am also under no illusion that the actual mechanics and electrics of the Golf are not the best, in fact, sub par in many cases. Again, I accept those issues.

LCA bushes, DSG, PCV, actuator, air filter design, head units, Haldex, list goes on.

Still, the MKVII will sell but it is becoming a less attractive and valid offering.

[alebonau]

Here's a review of the MK7:

Volkswagen Golf MK7 review - CarBuyer - YouTube

good find. golf no doubt building on its previous success. if it aint broke as they say. and heck they probably sell enough of them so why do anything drastic.

strange though it is after 3 years of golf gti ownership am definitely looking for that something extra. maybe am not one of those who update a car to step into the next model that isnt greatly different than the one previous. for me its a bit too much of same old same old ... just wouldnt feel like a new car. perhaps I need something else for a while, skip a generation or two and then come back. the more and more am seeing of the new model the more its confirming my thinking

[alebonau]

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One man's meat is another man's poison.

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agree with your totally. the sheeps clothing has always been the hall mark of the gti so cant see that changing and is probably no 1 attraction of it. also agree whole heartedly its not about features. like yourself checked out both i30 and the veloster chock full they are with stuff that costs a lot on german cars...but yeah didnt grab me. drive the cars, get to use them and soon can sense the difference

[Tobes_WIR35]

The design language is definitely in keeping with previous models and is more of an evolution than revolution, but it's also on an entirely new platform, which is a pretty big step from a design and manufacturing viewpoint.

Being the cautious buyer that I am, I would be more inclined to buy a car that's an evolution of several previous models rather than a totally new car. Even the best designers and engineers can't get everything right the first time... let's hope the niggles and known failures of the mk6 are addressed in the mk7. I would like to see refinement in the DSG operation and some general improvements to NVH.

[GippsCC]

Part of the Golf's success is that it appeals to the broadest number of people possible. If that leads some to call it bland, etc, etc I reckon let them buy some bank for buck special that has no resale value, or else spend a king ransom's on some custom hand crafted vehicle put together by Belgian monks on blue moon nights only, just to stroke their ego about being "different". To each their own.

Me, I'm happy to be just one in the many VW owners who've never looked back.

[Tobes_WIR35]

There's always the Scirrocco R if you want something a bit more eye catching too....

[Candyman]

There's always the Scirrocco R if you want something a bit more eye catching too....

Many would suggest, eye catching for the wrong reasons .....