Golf 40th vs Golf R

[Bassik]

Hey all.

I have posted in another forum this however I thought I'd start a new thread.

I'm in a bit of a pickle and just wanted some advice from you Golf Gti/R owners.

I recently put a deposit on a Clubsport 40th edition but had subject to delivery and site.
Yesterday they called me and said a car has arrived and for me come and take a look.

When I went to VW to check it out they weren't allowing test drives which was one of my clauses in contract. Now I'm hesitant and am starting to rethink my options. As in the Golf R on the current 2.8% rate seems appealing. Also they did it for roughly the same price. $56k standard. Plus They let me drive this car. I can't understand why u can't test drive a car before you buy.

I cant decide for the life of me???

Clubsport or Golf R, or just wait and snatch a Golf R or 40 second hand. I must say I really dislike the leather seats in the R MY16 and they come standard now.

I currently own a MK6 Gti and just want advice on which would you buy taking into account these factors:

Resell value
Kw/$
Drive away price.
Wow impact and overall performance ie; Awd vs fwd?

Thanks in advanced. I'm happy for just a vote reply as well


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[andrew7]

Golf R by a mile: AWD the big difference, value/resale a big plus for the R, known quantity and very highly regarded.

[dempsey]

Having driven the R and the GTi PERFORMANCE ( which I own ) , I reckon they both have their pluses and minuses . The R is obviously quicker off the line , but up and running I think that the gti can feel more lively and fun in some situations. I like the look of the gti over the R but looks are in the eye of the beholder.
The 40th will drive very much like the performance pack as they are the same other than extra kws of the 40th. So just test a performance pack. The 40th should retain value well if they stick to the 500 limit ( unlikely if they sell well) . But considering i got in a brand new performance last month for 46,500 drive away, not sure if the extra for the 40th is money well spent.

Pat.

[xclay05x]

Maybe try test driving a GTI PP? Probablt very similar? That should definitely give you an idea how the power is delivered to the front wheels especially given they're using the same differential if I'm not wrong.


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[Bassik]

Maybe try test driving a GTI PP? Probablt very similar? That should definitely give you an idea how the power is delivered to the front wheels especially given they're using the same differential if I'm not wrong.


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Well funny some of you mention that because I have driven a GTI PP, twice in fact and that's where it confuses me more. My current Mk6 has a Stage 1 tune on it and the PP just feels a tad under powered in comparison.

Does appear that R is favored more

[SevenR]

i just signed up for a new R today, so you can guess my answer

[Dutch77]

If it's roughly the same price then the R is an easy win - but then I've seen pay well into the 50s for optioned up GTIs which never made much sense to me over a base R.

Different story if you can do deals now for a GTI PP for $46.5k - if I was on a tighter budget that is good value.

I cannot see there being any extra resale on a 40th, I am not seeing much difference on the 35th bar the original higher price being factored in and the fact these cars are generally bought by enthusiasts so tend to be better condition cars.

I also could not live with the wheels or the front bar on the 40th, but each to their own.

[Dutch77]

Well, it would be - the PP is offering the diff and brakes, the few extra kw doesn't even really cover the weight difference.. whereas a stage 1 Mk6 is going to be more than likely 10% up on power.

At $46k a GTI makes a lot of sense; at $56k an R makes sense. Horses for courses, err budgets.

[xssiiv]

I'm looking forward to picking mine up in 2 weeks hopefully, currently driving an RS3, previous car was S3 sedan. My sister has a manual Polo GTi and that is loads of fun to drive.

[Bassik]

I'm looking forward to picking mine up in 2 weeks hopefully, currently driving an RS3, previous car was S3 sedan. My sister has a manual Polo GTi and that is loads of fun to drive.

You'll no doubt have fun I'm sure of it. Oh man my previous car was a Polo GTi and that was a little gunner... had more fun on that then current mk6 Golf

At $46k a GTI makes a lot of sense; at $56k an R makes sense. Horses for courses, err budgets.

This in it's simplest form is absolutely correct. Then if you factor in the second hand option the 40th could fit in. I wonder what the loss would be the second you drive it out the dealership. Spoke to a guy on the weekend who paid $63k for his R and he reckons he'd get low $50s for it now...