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    Disable Stop/start - VCDS tweak

    Disable Start/Stop (Bluemotion) on Golf mkVII - VCDS tweak

    The following two methods can be used to permanently disable Start/Stop (SS) on a Golf mk7:
    (1) Temperature Method, or
    (2) Voltage Method (as an alternative to the Temperature Method)
    From feedback that I have received from forum members (thanks jonoz and Fontana), it appears that the Voltage method is applicable to later "MY" models and the Temperature method can be used on earlier "MY" models (i.e. my13 in my case)

    Before proceeding with this tweak, consideration should be given to any legal and environemtal factors that may result when disabling this facility.

    (1) Temperature Method
    These instructions were sourced from the Golfmk7.com site. Grateful acknowledgement to the author "Allenlin" who has said that the VCDS tweak was developed on a 103TDI. Allenlin has produced a short video which shows that SS has been disabled (see the link below) I have implemented this tweak on my mkVII, and I can vouch that it works.

    Video: Start/Stop disabled-Golf mkVII
    Allenlin instructions:

    1. Enter 19-CAN Gateway



    2.Click on Adaptation-10



    3. From drop-down channel list select (1)-Start/Stopp Auntemperaturvorgabe-Minimaltemperatur (it's almost at end of channel list)

    • In New value box, enter 50 (default stored value = -50.0)
    • Click Do it! tab
    • Click Add to Log to save a copy of the change




    4.From drop-down channel list select (2)-Start/Stopp Auntemperaturvorgabe-Maximaltemperatur (it's almost at end of channel list)

    • In New value box, enter 50 (default stored value = -50.0)
    • Click Do it! tab
    • Click Add to Log to save a copy of the change





    (2) Voltage Method (alternative)

    The voltage method is not available to all mk7 models (my own my13 vehicle will not allow access to the Adaptation channel below). However, I have confirmed (by viewing the Adaptation Control Map for Address hex19) that this method is available for the my14 model.

    Instructions

    1. Enter 19-CAN Gateway (see screen shot above)

    2. Click on Adaptation (see screen shot above)

    3. From drop down channel list, select Start/Stop start voltage limit (it's about 60% down the channel list)

    • In New value box, enter 12 (default stored value = 7.6V) Note: forums report that a value greater than 10V will work for this tweak - maximum permissible value =12.1V
    • Click Do it! tab
    • Click Add to Log to save a copy of the change




    EDIT: If you have a Mk7 Golf R then you could have Acc/Start Auth. Control module fitted to your car (address 05, HW:5Q0-959-435)
    This controller has only one adaptation channel whose sole function is disabling Stop/Start. The adaptation channel descriptor is Deactivation of start-stop function and default setting is not active. It may be possible to change this setting to active (untested).
    I've had two replies from forum members about changing the setting on this control module (thanks jonoz and fontana). Both have advised that they were unable to gain access to this module.
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    Last edited by DV52; 04-01-2015 at 05:47 PM.
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    looks like that is simply changing the 'outside temperature' threshold, below which stop start is disabled by the car (with -50 being the standard value... seems sensible, kinda).

    I would have thought you would need to put in a code to enter the adaptation screen....but its not mentioned above.
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    What is the normal threshold I know on wife's cAr it is 30 deg


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    Well that's nice and simple.

    Interested to hear how it pans out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
    Well that's nice and simple.

    Interested to hear how it pans out.
    Umai Naa : I think that the Golf-ing community should nominate Allenlin for a Nobel prize! I've wanted one for years -I'd kill for a Nobel peace prize!

    I'm finally rid of the stop/start facility on my mkVII. The VCDS tweak worked a treat. No more having to press the disable button on the center consol every time that I start the engine. Checked for faults on the auto scan report after the tweak - none to be found.
    Still get the dreaded "A" symbol in a circle (with a slash) when the vehicle comes to rest (in place of the gear indicator on the top RHS of the MFD), but the engine keeps idling

    Also tried the guage sweep tweak. It's only a cosmetic thing, but it worked OK too.
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    Not too familiar with the Golf 7 but has anyone compiled a list of VCDS tweaks for it yet? I have read on another forum those golfs that have electric folding mirrors can be tweaked to fold remotely on locking any truth on the matter?

    I will try out this deactivation of the stop start on my Tiguan and see if it works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambazonke View Post
    Not too familiar with the Golf 7 but has anyone compiled a list of VCDS tweaks for it yet? I have read on another forum those golfs that have electric folding mirrors can be tweaked to fold remotely on locking any truth on the matter?
    Australian-delivered Mk7s don't come equipped with electric folding mirrors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamD View Post
    Australian-delivered Mk7s don't come equipped with electric folding mirrors.
    We don't even get close to half of what they get overseas which is really disappointing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambazonke View Post
    Not too familiar with the Golf 7 but has anyone compiled a list of VCDS tweaks for it yet? I have read on another forum those golfs that have electric folding mirrors can be tweaked to fold remotely on locking any truth on the matter?

    I will try out this deactivation of the stop start on my Tiguan and see if it works
    Bambazonke: (interesting name!). I've compiled quite a few VCDS tweaks that I've gotten from all over the net but they are mostly untried. I'm really not sure of the accepted etiquette when copying stuff, so I'm hesitant to paste tweaks here. I've subsequently learn't that I should have gotten Alenlin's prior permission to paste his/her stop/start tweak (notwithstanding my acknowledgement of his/her authorship) and I've apologised on the other forum for my lack of manners.



    Please let us know if the stop/start tweak works on your Tiguan.
    Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is on-line, in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the expertise of the wider forum! Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DV52 View Post
    I'm really not sure of the accepted etiquette when copying stuff, so I'm hesitant to paste tweaks here. I've subsequently learn't that I should have gotten Alenlin's prior permission to paste his/her stop/start tweak (notwithstanding my acknowledgement of his/her authorship) and I've apologised on the other forum for my lack of manners.
    You're more than welcome to copy and paste tweaks - people don't hold copyright over these things, and if they choose to share their knowledge in a public forum, then that information should be considered public.

    So by all means, create a VCDS Tweaks thread for the Mk7 if you like (we have this one for the Mk6: The Official VWW VCDS Tweak Library), but please provide as much detail (not speculation) as you can, along with any relevant links where readers may find more information. Also be sure to point out that any VCDS adjustments are made at the owner's own risk, and may result in damage to control modules, etc etc.
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