Anyone tried out the Michelin PS5's?

[petemac110]

well going from the most recent 2021 . pzero and hifly are dead even... pzero and falken were even a few years ago so itd be safe to assume falken has dropped in the ranks too unless proven otherwise.. not saying falken are bad..

No, the Falkens don't have to prove anything... they weren't included in the latest test on the same car with the same profile under the same conditions. You aren't comparing apples with apples here. Your assumptions are fundamentally flawed. Sheesh!!

imo u can pick any of those tyres in the test #1 to hifly and you will have the same experience

My goodness...

[Manaz]

itd be safe to assume falken has dropped in the ranks too unless proven otherwise.

That doesn't necessarily follow.

[amunra]

That doesn't necessarily follow.

why. they were worse than pzero before.. you would 'assume' they are still the same until proven otherwise

[amunra]

No, the Falkens don't have to prove anything... they weren't included in the latest test on the same car with the same profile under the same conditions. You aren't comparing apples with apples here. Your assumptions are fundamentally flawed. Sheesh!!



My goodness...

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[petemac110]

yeh i can see the individual characteristics champ its 1 of the first things i looked at.. but in the end an overall score means something too.

The overall score YES, the ranking less so. Things can be closely ranked but separated by a large margin (thus performing better vs worse).

you most likely want to have something thats very good at what you do regularly on your commute and durable. the rest is a trade off between brands

As is the case with most tyres - there are almost always trade-offs. There is no perfect tyre.

What do I want? Relatively quiet tyres with good wet and dry grip and very good wet and dry braking performance (i.e. a high safety threshold) with the ability to stand up to the occasional weekend hills run. The FK510 do this nicely. I am very satisfied with my purchase.

[petemac110]

why. they were worse than pzero before.. you would 'assume' they are still the same until proven otherwise

Read the other replies - that's a false assumption.

[amunra]

The overall score YES, the ranking less so. Things can be closely ranked but separated by a large margin (thus performing better vs worse).



As is the case with most tyres - there are almost always trade-offs. There is no perfect tyre.

What do I want? Relatively quiet tyres with good wet and dry grip and very good wet and dry braking performance (i.e. a high safety threshold) with the ability to stand up to the occasional weekend hills run. The FK510 do this nicely. I am very satisfied with my purchase.

for $220 for a performance tyre its not bad.

[petemac110]

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Better quality than bloody Chinese tyres, that's for sure.

[amunra]

Read the other replies - that's a false assumption.

why is a "false assumption"..

not having any current data would be the Right assumption based off the last test of the 3.. the falken is the same name and numbered model too it hasnt changed so you would assume its the same tyre and formulation which was beaten by the pzero in scores.

it would be false to assume its better without having any further proof or comparison to the current pzero / hifly that scored the same... maybe hifly have improved their formulation to catch up to the pzero and make it look worse.

[petemac110]

As I mentioned above:

No, the Falkens don't have to prove anything... they weren't included in the latest test on the same car with the same profile under the same conditions. You aren't comparing apples with apples here. Your assumptions are fundamentally flawed. Sheesh!!

Each to their own, but from what I've seen across this forum, you are very good at the selective use of data and arguments which support your own biases. Think deeper champ...