77 TSI - Underpowered?

[Skamlpreet]

Good Day Folks!

Moved to Australia recently and am in the market for a Yeti 77 TSI. Primarily because of the lower sticker price and the 1.2% offer (though the number of cars available on the offer are limited). To be used only for weekend driving, hence do not want to plonk a lot of money. As of now we are two, planning for a third and parents visiting occasionally.

I am a bit of a spirited (still safety being prime though) driver and am gravitating from DSG's (driven the i20 and corolla overseas).

Need the opinion of existing owners if

- the 77 TSI feels underpowered. Will occasional 4 adults, some luggage and on the highways or the hills be too much for the puny engine?
- Any dramas with the turbocharged engine? Common issues
- problems with service and parts considering the significantly low marketshare of the Yeti
- Any others options (including Japanese - puhleaze don't kick me out of the forum) I can consider? I am expecting to pay around 25K on the 1.2% offer.

Appreciate your inputs

[PMinAU]

Hi. Have had one for two years. I originally omitted it from our list because I thought it might be underpowered. How wrong I was. It is actually quite a lively car. We've taken it on long road trips like Adelaide to Melbourne and it goes well on the limit. No probs overtaking. Cruise control is very good. Fuel consumption is exceptional, although you need to balance that out by the cost of 98 octane. Ours replaced an XTrail and we find the Yeti much more lively to drive, much better on acceleration and overtaking, and better on hills. Four adults will possibly reduce it somewhat, although we take two and lots of luggage on our trips with no noticeable penalty. Can't yet comment on parts or reliability. Quality of fit and finish however is very good.


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[Greg Roles]

Can't find anything but minor complaints with my Yeti, very left of centre car that gets a lot of attention. I love having a reasonably unique car, and in the 77TSI that's a lot of bang for buck. I also got a low % finance deal, and to know my last MKV Golf racked up about $15grand total interest and fees, but this Yeti of mine was more like $4k, is a nice thing too.

One option for the smaller TDI's is a good piggyback tuning box, these are much more linear and kinder to the smaller turbo's in how they build power, and just so you know my list shows the 77TDI going up to 100kw and 300nm. You can always get a 77TDI, and if you want more then that sort of figure is both reliable and achievable, and Skoda can't OBD detect it. I'm finding the quoted figures are lowball too, with results often much better on the modern diesels. Just FYI, not a sales pitch.

[CardinalSin]

Greg, when you say piggy back tuning box do you mean something that needs to be tuned on the dyno or one of the plug n play chip versions?

[Greg Roles]

Greg, when you say piggy back tuning box do you mean something that needs to be tuned on the dyno or one of the plug n play chip versions?

Simple plug and play- plug in chip, about to put one on and dyno it on my 103. Plugs into cam position, boost and fuel, does amazing things to the 103 MK 6 Golf. I will sell it off cheap as I will be going to a warranty obvious OBD flash for my sports DPF testing shortly, but want to get actual figures on a RDT 103 box given how good the few Mk6 diesels I have personally done respond.

I've been keeping quet on the RDT stuff, as a lot of testing is going on, but on diesels these piggys are often beating OBD tunes. The GTD result is astonishing, WAY beyond the best OBD tune anyone can do. It all comes down to how these better boxes can get around all the limiters even a proper OBD flash tune cannot access. And no TD1.

[CardinalSin]

I had no idea you could get anything like that without accessing the ECU.
How difficult are the cam and boost connections to get at? I know where the fuel rail one is.

Good luck with the testing of the DPF.

[brad]

I had a very short drive of a Golf Mk7 77tsi DSg the other day. There were 3 adults in the car & it only had 1500km on the dial so i assume it was still tight.

I thought it was one of the most gutless cars I've driven in a long time. It wasn't undriveable & there was no reason it couldn't maintain the speed limit but it wasn't lazy power - you would have to work at it.

Why not buy a 103tsi Octy? More room, more power.

[aware]

I had a very short drive of a Golf Mk7 77tsi DSg the other day. There were 3 adults in the car & it only had 1500km on the dial so i assume it was still tight.

I thought it was one of the most gutless cars I've driven in a long time. It wasn't undriveable & there was no reason it couldn't maintain the speed limit but it wasn't lazy power - you would have to work at it.

Why not buy a 103tsi Octy? More room, more power.

No 77TSI Golf in Mk7 Brad - 90TSI replaced that model.


To answer the OP's question - I haven't driven a 77TSI, but I'd prefer to spend a bit extra in the Yeti and get the 90TSI as a minimum. A quick search on carsales shows a few Yeti 90TSI Ambitions for around the $26-27k mark (demo).

I tested a Golf 90TSI, Skoda Rapid 90TSI and XV last year. I bought the XV - whilst it's not torquey it enjoys a rev and still returns 9l/100km in the city (note - on 98 RON, and 6MT). And I can leave just about every "Zoom zoom" Mazda 3 driver behind me as soon as the road involves a turn or 2, and the same for GT86/BRZ. To be fair - I'm usually the only one in the car, so don't notice any issues with power.

[brad]

No 77TSI Golf in Mk7 Brad - 90TSI replaced that model.


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That makes it even worse then!!!

[Lucas_R]

No 77TSI Golf in Mk7 Brad - 90TSI replaced that model.


To answer the OP's question - I haven't driven a 77TSI, but I'd prefer to spend a bit extra in the Yeti and get the 90TSI as a minimum. A quick search on carsales shows a few Yeti 90TSI Ambitions for around the $26-27k mark (demo).

I tested a Golf 90TSI, Skoda Rapid 90TSI and XV last year. I bought the XV - whilst it's not torquey it enjoys a rev and still returns 9l/100km in the city (note - on 98 RON, and 6MT). And I can leave just about every "Zoom zoom" Mazda 3 driver behind me as soon as the road involves a turn or 2, and the same for GT86/BRZ. To be fair - I'm usually the only one in the car, so don't notice any issues with power.

A Subaru XV leaving a BRZ/86 behind through the corners? Unless its an 80 year old woman driving or one of many people who seem to drive with their eyes closed then i don't see that happening. And I've just bought my wife a new Mazda 3 SP25 Astina and they actually go quite well with the 2.5L engine. The Mazda 3 has always been pretty decent through the corners too.