Looking to buy Jetta Soon

[ope126]

Wow. Thanks for such a great explaination. Although it seems like the mechatronics are getting replaced, I guess the clutch would still slip if not driven like a manual. At the end of the day, the car was meant for my wife who was going to drop the kids to school and park the car in the train station. This is such a shame cause jetta had every thing we wanted. I thought that DSG was agreat gear box.. but didnt thought that it had to be operated in this kind of way. Perhaps VW should advise their customers about this?

Joe...

Looks like you will be getting the Kia then!

[wai]

I thought that DSG was agreat gear box.. but didnt thought that it had to be operated in this kind of way. Perhaps VW should advise their customers about this?

The DSG is a "great" gearbox, and is the way things will go. The problem is in the implementation of the technology.

The gear changes are flat so you don't let the turbo spool down and then have to spool up again. It is a direct drive so there is no loss through a torque converter.

VW should let customers know about it, but they are afraid that too many would be scared off.

The issue with the recall is that VW tried to ignore it and hoped it would go away. The issues outlined would have been known through accelerated testing, but incorrect judgements were made as to the likelihood of it happening in service.

The control of the gear shifting and clutch engagement is via software, so this should be able to be programmed to minimise such effects.

Dual clutch gearboxes are not unique to VW. They are used by many manufacturers, including the Japanese ones. But then the Japanes have their fair share of issues. There is the faulty pyros on the passenger air bag that involved quite a large number of vehicles. There is the Mitsubishi where the adaptive cruise control can think tunnel walls are vehicles and apply the brakes. There is Mercedes where the passenger air bag may not deploy properly because of an issue with the dashboard moulding.

So, don't think that buying a Japanese or Korean or Chinese or any other make is going to give you some apparent protection against faults. They ALL suffer from them.

On something a little different, I was watching a UK show and was surprised to see a Honda, Kia, Nissan and Jaguar, all with the indicator on the left hand side of the steering column. These same cars here have them on the right. I wonder how long it will be before all have the indicator on the left.

[ziggyboy]

Dual clutch gearboxes are not unique to VW. They are used by many manufacturers, including the Japanese ones. But then the Japanes have their fair share of issues. There is the faulty pyros on the passenger air bag that involved quite a large number of vehicles. There is the Mitsubishi where the adaptive cruise control can think tunnel walls are vehicles and apply the brakes. There is Mercedes where the passenger air bag may not deploy properly because of an issue with the dashboard moulding.

Yes but I would rather get a car likely to get problems with, say, the cupholder, than a gearbox. All of them have problems, but not all of them have the same problems.

So, don't think that buying a Japanese or Korean or Chinese or any other make is going to give you some apparent protection against faults. They ALL suffer from them.

If I had adaptive cruise control defective, I can just switch it off. Big deal. What are you going to do about an intermittent gearbox problem? Can I just have it swapped for a manual at a dealership?

On something a little different, I was watching a UK show and was surprised to see a Honda, Kia, Nissan and Jaguar, all with the indicator on the left hand side of the steering column. These same cars here have them on the right. I wonder how long it will be before all have the indicator on the left.

As far as I know, the location of the indicator depends on the country that designed the particular model. Many Japanese-built cars have them on the right because Japan is a RHD country. Your left hand is "reserved" for the gear stick while the right is for the indicator. It makes using a manual really easy. It's a little bit annoying having the indicator on the left on a manual in Australia.

Notice that I said "Japanese built car" instead of "Japanese car" because it is possible that those Honda models with the indicator on the left were originally designed in/for a LHD country, and convered for RHD.

[Rawcpoppa]

Ziggy have you had your MU replaced via the recall yet?

[ziggyboy]

Not yet. Got a letter saying they'll contact me again to schedule the recall when parts arrive.

[fillmore]

Not yet. Got a letter saying they'll contact me again to schedule the recall when parts arrive.

Shouldn't be far away. Received mine last Wednesday. Booked in to be done early next month.

[Joesama]

Right. Thanks for all the input guys.
Seems like the fate has been sealed not to get the Jetta.
Cerato is looking to be a good contender. But I think currently Im leaning towards more on i30 Elite. Otherwise, Honda Civic VTi-LN is a good alternative at the moment. Poor VW. It had everything I could have ever wanted in terms of technology. Brought down by the gearbox...

joe...

[ope126]

Right. Thanks for all the input guys.
Seems like the fate has been sealed not to get the Jetta.
Cerato is looking to be a good contender. But I think currently Im leaning towards more on i30 Elite. Otherwise, Honda Civic VTi-LN is a good alternative at the moment. Poor VW. It had everything I could have ever wanted in terms of technology. Brought down by the gearbox...

joe...

Joe, not quite sure the point of your thread mate...
I don't believe that any of those other cars you mentioned are even in the same class.

Enjoy your 5yr / unlimited kilometre warranty.

Good luck on one of the Korean car enthusiast forums.

[MINT_JETTA]

lol hyundai, Kia or VW............ the decision must be a tough one

now where is the slap face icon?

[ziggyboy]

Joe, everyone is entitled to their opinion but as a current Jetta owner I would advise against it right now.