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    1.4 118kW v 1.8 118kW

    Hi all,

    Just wondering what people think about the 1.4 Twincharged 118kW enigines in the Jetta/golf compared to the 1.8TSI 118kW engines in the Passat/Octavia.

    I was thinking that that the 1.4 might be smoother down low but might have to work harder and may not have the longevity.

    Cheers

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    in the sydney mod section, The_Hawk has just posted his dyno plet from today with a 1.4TSI.http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...a-68365-4.html

    I would be fairly surprised if the 1.4 is smoother than the 1.8 - the nature of its makeup means that it requires boost to make torque, and that means a lot of technology has to work perfectly to get it to deliver smooth power.


    As a comparison, heres a dyno plot (same shop, very similar weather) from my old mk3 turbo diesel -
    quite similar numbers and rev-range to the 1.4, but see how my old diesel with greater displacement, only 2 valves per cylinder, sizeable turbocharger and mechanical fuel pump makes a much smoother torque curve because there are fewer feedback loops interacting with eachother (very simplistically). (just FIY, the 2 curves are so different because I increased fuelling after the first run)

    Definately the 1.4 has to work harder... not necessarily is that a bad thing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skoda View Post
    I was thinking that that the 1.4 might be smoother down low but might have to work harder and may not have the longevity.
    I don't think it matters on a practicable level, and if you intend to do the sorts of mileages where it will matter, you'd be better off with the TDI anyway.

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    Get an ECU software update (i.e. APR Stage 1) and the 1.4L is a very fun little racing car to drive.

    0-100kph comes in about 6.8 seconds compared to 8.0 stock, similar to the GTI.

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    Probably the 1.4 is more economical than the 1.8 on the highway?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_R View Post
    Get an ECU software update (i.e. APR Stage 1) and the 1.4L is a very fun little racing car to drive.

    0-100kph comes in about 6.8 seconds compared to 8.0 stock, similar to the GTI.
    '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
    '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
    '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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    I average 6.9l/100 although I don't drive like an old lady

    3-4 on the freeway (cruise control).

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    Thanks for your thoughts.

    I know the torque for the 1.8lt TSI is 250, does anyone know what the 1.4lt is?

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    240 stock, 320 with APR Stage 1 ECU software upgrade

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