Plead for Skoda to offer reverse camera (RVC)

[Hillbilly]

Because people have never been able to cope without the RVC, right? For how many years have people not had RVC and now you won't buy a car without it? By the sounds of it, your wife needs to purchase a Landcruiser Prado so that she doesn't feel the bump when she runs over kids she should have been watching out for.
I have KESSY, but it doesn't seem to have super powers. Taking a bit of responsibility would go a long way.

That comment is out of order as there is nothing wrong with trying to make things better. No one suggested she is not responsible but is sensible enough to want to improve things for hers and others children and should be applauded for that.

NOT VILLIFIED

My car has a RVC and so did my Landcruiser,

It was a great attribute as it is very hard to see things down low in a wagon.

As long as you dont completely rely on technology the OP has every right to equip his wife with whatever makes things easier.

I support his quest to get all cars fitted with them as they are a great idea if used in conjunction with common sense and awareness of your surroundings.
From the attitude of your post we would be all better off on pushbikes as they have an all around view.

[tonymy01]

Thanks for the info. I'll certainly let my dealer know in the next service.

But I'm still determined to write to my MP. Even if my RVC works after the software upgrade, it is still a very expensive

Good luck with both those options.
1. Given you have said yourself that your model doesn't normally come with rvc, it is best left up to enthusiasts to resolve, rather than dealers that often have no clue or care and charge like wounded bulls to cover their tech that might only have a slight clue.
2. Mp...haha, ok. My rvc cost $500 to get here from Poland, and my first effort to install (mine) took the good party of a day (with my third effort, Marco's GTI, and with help from Osram, took only 3 hours add we have the technique down pat now), as you can see, it will cost a bit in labour to put in for any normal technician.

I have put the offer out there for you, most enthusiasts on this forum with vcds can help you out as it would only take a few mins to look at for anyone that had done this before, and we do it for love and to help one of out own, not money.

But it seems you'd rather take the hard/stressful way out..

[pologti18t]

Rear cameras a step forward - reverse lenses could become mandatory | thetelegraph.com.au

[VAG newbie]

Good luck with both those options.
1. Given you have said yourself that your model doesn't normally come with rvc, it is best left up to enthusiasts to resolve, rather than dealers that often have no clue or care and charge like wounded bulls to cover their tech that might only have a slight clue.
2. Mp...haha, ok. My rvc cost $500 to get here from Poland, and my first effort to install (mine) took the good party of a day (with my third effort, Marco's GTI, and with help from Osram, took only 3 hours add we have the technique down pat now), as you can see, it will cost a bit in labour to put in for any normal technician.

I have put the offer out there for you, most enthusiasts on this forum with vcds can help you out as it would only take a few mins to look at for anyone that had done this before, and we do it for love and to help one of out own, not money.

But it seems you'd rather take the hard/stressful way out..

Like my user name suggests, I am a VAG newbie. The superb is the first VAG cars I've owned. So I am no expert on modifications ....etc. Well, I just thought since the dealer fitted the camera for me, they should be responsible to fix it up for me. But if you reckon that is the bad way to go, is there anyone in this forum that has VCDS lives in Brisbane? I am happy to pay a small fee if they can fix my RVC.

With the legislation, yes, I agree it is a hard battle. But what are the MPs for? We elected them, they get paid >$100k for tax payers money, they need to do something. Andrew Wilkie has been obsessed with his gambling machine ever since the first day he got elected. But what percentages of the population are problem gamblers? I would say <1%. Comparitively, what percentages of the population drives a car? I'd say >60%. The other 40% would consists largely of children. So I would say this legislation will benefit >90% of people. Way more important than gambling.

Because Victoria has made ESP compulsory, this made all manufacturer, except Chery, to include ESP as standard without extra costs. Otherwise, they would continue to charge a premium on that, or omit it competely in their base model just to make the price looks good.

So I am fighting this for the greater good, not just for my own RVC. It won't take long, just a letter.

[VAG newbie]

Rear cameras a step forward - reverse lenses could become mandatory | thetelegraph.com.au

Thanks, that's what I am talking about. I think they just needed a bit of push. I am sick of hearing the government just attacking each other, like sacking someone because he has made an inappropraie comment about the PM's father, or sex scandals one after the other, or how the sheep are being slaughtered in Parkistan...etc. We should force them to do something useful!

[pologti18t]

Because Victoria has made ESP compulsory, this made all manufacturer, except Chery, to include ESP as standard without extra costs. Otherwise, they would continue to charge a premium on that, or omit it competely in their base model just to make the price looks good.

Of course the user pays for it in the end. Nothing is for free.

[K1W1]

Because of this simple reason, when we are looking for a car for my wife, Skoda is eliminated out right! She drives kids all the time. She drops them off and pick them up in school, no RVC is a disaster waiting to happen.

I'm sorry but I will take issue with that.
The lack of a reversing camera is NOT a disaster waiting to happen. Whilst you might consider it desirable and maybe you or your wifes driving and spacial awareness skills are doubtful the world will continue to revolve each day without vehicles being fitted with rear cameras and many, many people will drive perfectly safely in the same sort of environments you do without any issues what so ever.

[VAG newbie]

I'm sorry but I will take issue with that.
The lack of a reversing camera is NOT a disaster waiting to happen. Whilst you might consider it desirable and maybe you or your wifes driving and spacial awareness skills are doubtful the world will continue to revolve each day without vehicles being fitted with rear cameras and many, many people will drive perfectly safely in the same sort of environments you do without any issues what so ever.

That's what most people think. "I'll just be careful." "Those who run over their kids are idiots, not me!" "It will never happen to me!" Well, wait until you lose someone you love. In our case, it was our dog, whom we had for 14 years since puppy. He was sleeping at the corner of the drive way, and I can tell you, my wife backed out as slow as possible, but you just can't see a dog lying on the ground behind a wagon because it was so low! So low that even the parking sensor didn't pick up. My wife ran over his back, crushed his spine and made him paraplegic. We had no choice but to put him down. If you had a look at his innocent eye, it was an image that haunted us for a very long time.

Yes, you can say my wife is stupid. How can she lock a baby inside the car? How can she ran over our dog? I can tell you, some people are naturally clumsy! Also we as human beings, we make mistakes. We get tired, we rush sometimes, we get distracted...... those are the times that we make mistakes. It's simple human psychology.

I am an anesthetist and my work will not allow me to make any mistake. Life and death! But we work ridiculous long hours sometimes. Fatigue impair our judgement. So there are many safety measures built into the modern anesthetic machine and monitors to minimize the chance of us making a mistake. These devices are not to replace us (otherwise we'd be out of job!) but it reminds us and warns us when things are going wrong. All these things have been added to make sure next time you have an operation, you will be safe. I have a special interest in this area, and I have implemented many protocols in my hospitals to improve the safety of our patients. My goal is zero mistakes!

Unfortunately, the motoring industry is very far behind on this. Statistically, the chances of us die in a car accident is 10x higher than die in an operation. Why? Because the general public, ie, the drivers, think they don't need all the safety features, these are for retards who can't drive. It's this kind of attitude that is allowing car manufacturers to cut corners. It's the reason why people are actually buying Great Walls and Cherys!

Anyway, even if you take all the precaution you can, unfortunately there will be other clumsy driver that won't take the same precaution, and it could be your loved one that's under his/her wheel next time.

I'm not saying RVC will prevent all accident, but at least it is a step forward in making cars safer. Yes, the buyer may have to pay for it, but if it is legislation and all cars need to fit it, there will be so much competition that car manufacturer would just have to absorb the cost!

I'll also add the fact that females are less developed in the right side of the brain, which is responsible for spatial relations, numbers, sequences....etc, than males. But they are better developed in their left side, which is for speech, language, literacy, comprehension ....etc. This is a scientific fact and it explains why girls tend to talk earlier than boys, and they usually excel in humanity subjects, but tend to do less well in math and science. This also explains why females tend to scratch their cars while parking a lot more often than males, but males tend to write off their cars a lot more than females. I'm not being sexist here (my wife hated every time I try to explain the difference between male and female!), I'm just saying we are made different. (In fact, I prefer to have my wife scratch the car rather than write off the car and jeopardize her life and my boy's lives. This males female superior to male!) RVC and parking sensors, while we boys don't think they are necessary, to many women, they are essential! Just like a pair of glasses, for those with good eye sight will never understand why someone can't live without their glasses.

The majority of drivers picking up their kids at schools are mothers. Already they have a more limited capacity in judging distances (again I'll stress, this doesn't apply to all females, some are born good at judging distances, and this doesn't make female inferior to male) they are usually exhausted (2-3pm is the time that our brain functions at the lowest capacity), they have screaming kids at the back seat to distract the mother, and she might be rushing home to prepare for dinner..... All these added up, is a recipe for disaster. As more and more mothers are driving SUVs to pick up their kids, I think a RVC will definitely help.

Sorry for the long post. I had to be careful what I say in case some female friends in this forum get offended. If anyone finds it offensive, please accept my apology as it was not my intention. I was just trying to explain the reason why my wife finds RVC essential based on scientific fact and personal experiences.

[woofy]

It all makes sense, the bit I prefer to do, is not have animals or kids out in the first place at home. There shouldn't be much need for them to reverse in public and in driveways I refuse to move a car unless the kids are locked behind a gate or inside. No amount of sensors or RVC will help you in time if a kid runs out behind the car. Cars are all lower at the front and higher at the back these days so it is more of an issue. Having said that, if you are reversing you should be looking behind you and not at a screen in front of you.

I'm seeing more and more complacency on inbuilt devices and less about actual personal responsibility, any given day people seem to be driving worse, parking even more badly...and in general don't give a crap about anyone else. I have two big scratches on my not even 1 year old car that the people responsible for didn't own up to, and I'm not surprised....noone cares anymore.

[BlackSuperb]

Reversing cameras are a good idea and should be an option available from the manufacturer.

Sadly, Skoda don't think so even though their parent company provide them as standard issue on all new Passats.

Of course you don't look at them whilst reversing. Use them to ensure a clear path before you reverse then turn and look behind and guide your vehicle.