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Thread: Next Gen Superb - 17/2/15

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    Thanks to Matt for sending the brochures out looks awesome


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    I should be able to test a 206 in Sydney tomorrow. I'll be interested to see what tyres are fitted & learn more about the cars technical specs, not yet revealed by Skoda. In particular, the braking system & performance. The brakes on my existing V6 are 'superb', I assume with 19" wheels, the new Skoda must also have similar big discs & callipers or better braking capability.

    Reading through the various revues done by our fearless motoring press so far, I find them quite shallow. It appears there has been no serious testing of the limits or measurement of things like braking performance. In fact braking & tyres don't rate a mention in those I've seen. A complete contrast to the 2009/10 write ups of the V6 which suggested the car was 'over-braked'.

    One only has to look through this forum to see one of the greatest irritants for Skoda owners has been the level of road & tyre noise entering the cabin. I made the mistake of putting Dunlop SP Sports Maxx on my V6 early on. Great handling tyres, but the degree of resonant noise in the cabin from the back, at 110kms/hr on an expressway was painful & very tiring. In the end, I through way those Dunlops when only 20% warn & replaced them with the softer, more euro chassis friendly Contisports3. They transformed the car & noise disappeared. I note one motoring writer's review of the 206TSi, wrote of noise from the back, but never mentioned what tyres were on the car or offered any comment on whether Skoda has introduced some level of sound deadening for Australian Skodas with the 2016 Superbs. I see a lot of references to peak power & torque figures, but it appears none of the writers looked at torque & power response at cruising speed on variable roads. What happens when the car reaches a long steady climb? What sought of revs is the car doing at cruising speeds? That's what I find missing; the driveability.

    Has anyone yet lifted the boot mat & had a look at the wheel well? It has to be big enough to take the emergency spare, but is it big enough to take the depth of a full size spare. Skoda always claimed earlier V6 models had a bike wheel because a full size wheel was 'too high'. That was a lie. It fits perfectly. I'm hoping the same is true of the 2016 Superb. In fact it will be a deal breaker for me if the wheel well is inadequate. This move to 8" rim width is a welcome one & opens access to a far wider range of tyres used by other vehicles. 225.40x18 were virtually unavailable outside major cities, unless it was a town full of Subarus.

    It would be great if some of these writers would return to reviewing more of the cars mechanicals from the drivers perspective. iPad mounts on the back of my driver's seat, I need like a hole in the head. Too many reviews spend far too much considering the comfort of passengers. Perhaps they need reminding, drivers usually buy cars & drive them, not passengers.

    I've searched the web, but not found any proper technical specification for the new Superb's mechanicals.

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    2009fsi, this might be of a bit of assistance. Brake size for the 206tsi is 340mm front, 310mm rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009fsi View Post
    I should be able to test a 206 in Sydney tomorrow. etc.
    Any questions happy to answer - the 2 wagons we have here atm have Pirelli Cinturato P7 tyres and have full size steel wheel spare with Nexen tyres

    Sedan is currently out on loan for the day so will confirm on return later today

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    Thanks very much Riker & MattPS.

    I am still yet to see or drive a 2016 Superb; maybe tomorrow ......
    Interesting they have changed to a slightly smaller front disc, in a bigger rim. The V6 has 345 & 310. It may be as simple as a change of equipment supplier. An interesting document , Riker.

    The Pirelli Cinturato P7 is an interesting choice on the 206 AWD. These 'smart' AWD sedans really do need the softer compounds typical in Europe. A harder compound of different construction primarily developed around perfornance V8s, like the Dunlops mentioned before, have grip characteristics at variance to the software of the cars stability system. ContiSports3 was basically a slick tyre with 5 wide channels around the tyre. That's why it was quieter. It doesn't have the array if small cut blocks easily moved, which can be a source of noise.
    Glad to hear there is a full size spare, steel or alloy, Matt.

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    good review here..

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    OK 206 Sedan we have in stock has a space saver (emergency spare) but you could fit a full size, 162 has full size steel wheel

    As for your comments on tyres well I'm not even going to go there for those arguements never end

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    Why would the 206 sedan have a space saver and yet the 162 has full spare? Surely the weight difference between them is Sweet FA?

    Also, anyone know which DSG is in the 206TSI? And what torque it can handle? I assume it's the same as the Golf Mk 7 R?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donweather View Post
    Why would the 206 sedan have a space saver and yet the 162 has full spare? Surely the weight difference between them is Sweet FA?
    It could be due to the AWD cutting into the under-floor space in he boot. That's my guess.

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    Also, anyone know which DSG is in the 206TSI? And what torque it can handle? I assume it's the same as the Golf Mk 7 R?
    All model Superbs run the 6 speed DQ250 (wet clutch) - same as Golf GTI/R.

    There was also approval for the 132TSI 1.8l engine, however this never eventuated (or at least not yet). This one was spec'd with the DQ200 7 speed (dry clutch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPS View Post
    OK 206 Sedan we have in stock has a space saver (emergency spare) but you could fit a full size, 162 has full size steel wheel
    Thanks again Matt.
    That gives me the sh ! ts no end, unfortunately. It adds $1,000 to the price of the car, just to put the right wheel & tyre in the boot, when it ought to be their in the first place.

    I still haven't seen or driven one up here in Sydney. Dealers in other parts of Australia are advertising them, with photos on the showroom floor, in Carsales. I rang the two big dealers nearest me yesterday. They gave me that well known Mexican word for false hope. Surely it will come.

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