What did you pay for your Octavia RS162/RS169?

[Mysticality]

Mysticality, You're starting to sound more and more like a used car salesman everyday. Oh, woe is us, the poor dealer we're not making any money. Crap, dealers don't build huge glossy showrooms if they're not making money. I'm sure there is all sorts of kickbacks, rebates etc on invoiced price.

I've seen all the back end stuff; and at places like Toyota - yeah, sure, totally; huge margins and lots of money going around!
Its incredible just how much Skoda doesn't make!

[woofy]

Skodas made more when they first launched, but I think VWA were giving a tonne of rebates etc when I bought mine late 2008. I got free onroads/DD and the dealer also got another bonus from VWA which meant they gave me $1k extra off when I picked it up a week later. That was a different time though. With lots of dealers gone since then some really good profitable ones and the ones still there have said repeatedly that there is nothing in them. One told me how little Fabias margins were. I think it's safe to say that VWA are doing fine but are still not passing things onto the dealer they should. Offering extended warranty/servicing with finance just helps them more whereas free onroads is a more tangible thing to help the dealer. I reckon Hyundai probably have the biggest margins full stop now, they don't discount anymore, they push up the prices quite a bit with each incoming model and they really do rort you on servicing.