Standard, 139 is what the brochure says.. so i think thats 13.9cm same as the standard Octavia from memory
Drops to 119 with the sports suspension kit which i think from memory is the same as the RS Octavia
I agree entirely that VAG are unlikely to make the Superb Scout, but that doesn't help me at all, and could even push me back into the hands of Subaru in a couple of years. $110k+ for an A6 Allroad, if they're still making it then, is just over the odds.
What is the ground clearance on the Superb? I just remember the mess of the underfloor on my Golf, and don't think I should head back there.....
Brilliant Silver Octavia Scout 2010
Standard, 139 is what the brochure says.. so i think thats 13.9cm same as the standard Octavia from memory
Drops to 119 with the sports suspension kit which i think from memory is the same as the RS Octavia
Superb AWD with aftermarket +25mm springs? Get the springs done +30% springrate & should be all good
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By then there'll hopefully be the new generation Octavia which I heard is going for head of the medium-sized class. Eg, they're adding a bit of room to the car (which is the only thing needed IMO). My dad's 6.2 and I'm currently 6.0 and sitting behind him I have no problems.
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Mine: Silver 2006 Volkswagen Golf Sportline 2.0FSI 6M (with a sunroof)
Parents': Candy White 2008 Skoda Octavia RS 2.0TFSI 6M Liftback
I don't think you would for 25mm but each case has to be thought about individually. Let's face it, when you jack up the car off the body, the suspension has about 100mm (?) sag in it before the tyre comes off the ground, so there's a bit of room to play with there.
I guess it depends how adjustable the front & rear camber is, as that will tend to go +ve as you lift the normal ride height.
I've lifted the bum/incresed spring rate on a few Libertys. Also looked at doing a mates Brumby once. +50mm body kit was pretty common & didn't require any of the items you mentioned. BTW, you forgot flexible brake lines, which sometimes get a bit stretched when you go upwards too far (plus gear linkages, tailshaft angles/slipshaft length & a few other bits & pieces)
I've also done a few Holden wagons & 1 tonners, a couple of Fords, a few Valiants, a few Hiluxes, lots of Taragos, etc (the last three are easy - torsion bar suspension up front - just wind it up & reset the geometry). Sure - most of them are live axle rear but there's usually a fair bit of room to play with. If you can lower 25mm-50mm without issue, you can usually go up a bit too.
Even if you just increase the spring rate so the car doesn't sag as much when there's a couple of passengers & a boot full of gear, that can help (HELLO! GEN4 Liberty, can you hear me?).
The other thing I looked at on Subarus was shim plate (4-6mm thick) between the strut tops & the body - simply using up the full length of the strut top bolts. Also, i started designing a big spacer (25-40mm) that was slightly eccentric (for camber correction) but shelved that idea when i decided an Outback wasn't my cup of tea.
Not boasting or anything, just trying to convey that I didn't just pull the idea out my bum - but you are right, you need to get the vehicle up on the hoist & have a coke & a smoke & a look around & make sure you aren't creating a rod for your own back. And of course, the moment you fit aftermarket springs (up or down), warranty for associated systems is in jeopardy.
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Brad I would have thought that if you had done lifts on Brumbys you would know the problems with lifting front drive vehicles and how quickly you kill CV joints. Sure the suspension sags when you lift a car up just like it compresses when you hit a bump but the drive train is not designed you run for tens of thousands of kms at the upper or lower end of the suspension travel. It's designed to work at the factory ride height. Holdens, Fords, Toyota Hiluxes and Valiants are entirely different beasts with completely different drive trains and suspension set ups from modern all independent, front drive oriented car style vehicles.
I'd love to see an Outback or Scout style AWD Superb Wagon I think it could be a good seller in Australia but seeing as the AWD is only offered as the premium product in the range I can't see Skoda suddenly putting it on the diesel variant with a lower spec level which is where most of the potential sales would be.
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