Octavia Scout or Superb Outdoor

[tigger73]

We'll have to wait until the "official" drive-away prices are revealed but I'm with you bobski that it's just not delivering the value proposition that Skoda is known for (without heavy discounting).

If you compare the Scout to a Tiguan which mechanically is very similar, drive-away pricing on the Tiguan is:

132TSI DSG - $36,990
130TDI DSG - $39,990

So by going by this comparison the Scout is $7k more expensive than the "equivalent" VW. Unless the pricing that the dealer was giving out were pre-launch pricing based on the dealers best guess with a factor for safety... and from wanting to shift the Outdoor.

[Sword_Dude]

Don't get me wrong guys the Scout is a very good car to drive, it feels like a road car on the road, even though some of the streets we were driving through were very lumpy and exceedingly wet it was well composed. I have driven a Tig as a loaner and the Scout is streets ahead, so while you may think you are comparing something similar it just isn't.

It was just too expensive when compared with the Superb Outdoor and unfortunately very few people are going to be in the position of being able to do a back to back comparison as I have.

I too am curious to see what people end up bargaining them down to, but they weren't prepared to do anything really this early in the piece.

[bobski]

I hadn't even thought about comparing it to the Tiguan! I was just thinking the new outback looks good, new forester looks good and the base 4WD X-Trail is $37500.

But yep, well undercut by the Tig too. I'll try not to get in a lather over this one before final details though. No one likes a portly man in a lather. But Skoda needs to have sharp pricing. Firstly, I don't think people will consider it unless the pricing is similar to the big players and secondly its not fair to the people that pay near full RRP that someone can walk in and negotiate a 10-15% discount.

[tigger73]

I can understand that early/pre-launch they aren't offering any discount. Especially if they don't have stock or its scarce they can try to charge full price.

The Tiguan is certainly an older (mk5/6 platform) vehicle - not like MQB platform Octavia. Harder to compare an SUV to a wagon for sure but what I was looking at was price for essentially the same engine/transmission.

The prices quoted for the Scout seemed on the high side but as you say is probably before any discounts.

I took a new RS for a test drive and AWD would be a great addition. That's why I think the 135TDI Scout will be an awesome car. As long as it's competitively priced it should do well competing against Subaru Outback, Golf Alltrack, etc.


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[Sword_Dude]

With the pricing they are indicating, this is not going to make the sales they were hoping.

Although the 110TDI Manual may make up for it, it should drive well and be very capable, but my wife was not interested in a manual transmission for our next car.

[wfdTamar]

Maybe there is a currency fluctuation issue here? Existing stock would have been brought in when the A$ was around parity with the US$, but now it's dropped to 75% it might be that new stock will be more expensive.

[stormshark]

This is a very interesting thread as I have been holding off buying a replacement car pending the Scout due to good OS Reviews.I have not driven but am disappointed in this pricing though, as I will not pay high $40s for the Diesel, and I believe it places this car in a price bracket beyond its market if this makes sense. VRS V Outdoor V This V Subaru etc etc ???

[parisfrance]

The pricing and specifications for the Scout have been announced.



2015 Skoda Octavia Scout 4×4 pricing and specifications

[bobski]

Mid 30s for the manual TDI is enticing - just weird there's not a DSG in that spec (maybe I'm in the minority being happy with that configuration).

But assuming onroads will be around $2.5k. Bargaining a 135TDI for early 40s will be possible, which seems ok. Still not sure of the RRP value equation :/

2015 Skoda Octavia Scout 4×4 pricing (plus on-road costs):
103TDI manual $32,990
132TSI Premium DSG $38,590
135TDI Premium DSG $41,390

[brad]

Mid 30s for the manual TDI is enticing - just weird there's not a DSG in that spec (maybe I'm in the minority being happy with that configuration).

But assuming onroads will be around $2.5k. Bargaining a 135TDI for early 40s will be possible, which seems ok. Still not sure of the RRP value equation :/

2015 Skoda Octavia Scout 4×4 pricing (plus on-road costs):
103TDI manual $32,990
132TSI Premium DSG $38,590
135TDI Premium DSG $41,390

The basic is just a price leader to get people into the showroom? They know most AU buyers will want automatic so they can then get another bag of money out of them with the upgrade.

From what I've heard the 132tsi with AWD is a bit of a fuel guzzler (in comparison to the basic 132tsi with DQ200 7 speed) but i bet they still crap all over the Subabrus.

I'd almost expect the 103 manual will be as rare as rocking horse poo.

How do those prices compare with the Outback (which I believe they are heavily discounting these days)? That would be the only direct competitor besides the Superb Outdoor wouldn't it?