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GTR I dispute this. At least in Victoria the build date is almost irrelevant, Vic roads records the Australian compliance date as the date recorded in their system and printed on the rego papers. I know this because I make my living out of selling used cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTR27
Come trade in, dealers only look at build date. If they are selling to you, they go on compliance date. Always in the dealers favour.
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Originally Posted by GTR27
^^^^^This and always this. I always ensure my build date is near the beginning of a new year.
I'm not meaning to be rude, there ARE good salesman and dealers around. You need to have a look at whirlpool forums for the sheer number of people who have been burnt by the above to see how big a problem it is.
Makes it hard when Skoda takes 6-8 months to deliver a bloody car.
So if I come to you with one of the last of the previous Roomsters that was built in 2009 and sat in the holding yards for 24months & complied in 2011 you'll treat it as a 2011 vehicle? (there's a few Golf convertables out there like that too).Quote:
Originally Posted by VRS162
I've been in the same boat & the dealer swears blind that the build date is what is used for trade-in purposes. (but I'm sure they would use the compliance date for selling purposes)
Also, when I insured my current vehicle the insurer was quite specific that they wanted the build date (2007) and not the compliance date (2008 ).
Yeah I had the same build plate vs compliance plate issue. Never had it before as I always get one built the same year. I had a really bad cold when I bought my last car but had the sense still to get a car built in 2011 the same as when I was buying it (Oct 2011). My invoice that went to my business finance people had the build date etc on it, VIN number etc. A few months after owning it I noticed when cleaning that the compliance date was earlier in 2011 but the build date was well over a year earlier, Aug 2010. I was livid as the insurers will only pay out based on build date models and insurance was different between the years. The sales manager was the one who sold to me and pretty much tried to say compliance is all that matters. That is until you go to trade it in....then build is everything.
I've had many signs that the car sat somewhere outside for quite a while, the battery which is a monster well known for long life died recently at 2.5yrs my time, but closer to 3.5 in dock sitting. I suspect it probably had been flat for a long time before buying it, but couldn't be bothered trying to deal with that. My steering wheel leather at the top front edge was dry and rough from delivery and started peeling so will be getting that replaced before warranty is out. Same thing with door linining at the top of the doors, clearly all sun damaged and were replaced.....good times and never again.
I will see how things go next year, but almost leaning towards getting a MY16 build first thing in 2016 rather than get something built and delivered right at the end of the year.
[QUOTE=GTR27;1092440]I'm not meaning to be rude, there ARE good salesman and dealers around. You need to have a look at whirlpool forums for the sheer number of people who have been burnt by the above to see how big a problem it is.
GTR I didn't take your comment as rude. Obviously it is a dealers job to trade your car for the lowest possible price, so they will try anything in their power to lower the price. However if you have a high demand car in good condition with low kms the dealer may try to lower the trade price with the build date debate but if you push or shop around you will get the right price. At the end of the day the dealer can and WILL advertise the car as a 2015 car, meaning they can ask more than the same spec car that is a 2014 plate. Any dealer worth their salt will not let a high quality trade in past just because of the build date. Good stock is now very hard to get as a private buyer can sell their own car much easier now than 10 years ago. Build date is just another negotiation tool, the same as (insert colour) is not popular or leather trim is less popular in this model than cloth, basically the opposite of what you have to trade. The moral of the story is do your home work and know what your cars retail value is and allow a margin for the dealer margin and then push for that figure of a discounted new car price. That way you really know what you are being offered.
Brad, on your example of the Roomster, yes the car will be advertised as a 2011 but the trade know they were not imported after 2009-2010 I think. However the Roomster fails one important test, it was a total sales dud on the Australian market. Therefore you will have no bargaining power, but a 2011 plated car is still easier to sell in the retail market than a 2009 plate just dont know you could ask a hell of a lot more for a 2011 as already said the market is very soft on the Roomster.
All my comments are based on the market in Victoria as I am aware that in South Aus it is law that the build date is the only date that a dealer can advertise. Not sure about the rest of AUS.
Vehicle ordered, let the wait begin!
Only change I made was the colour to metallic black. There's a black rs sedan in the showroom and it made me change my mind. It also has the paint protection and that looked sweet. The other interesting thing it had was some sort of interior protection applied to the leather and doors, but only half the seat and door to show the difference. The leather looks heaps better with it. Not sure of the cost though
Knowing a dealer, about 6 times what it's worth. Seriously save your money and take it to a pro detailer. They will do a better job, with better products for much less money.
Good detailer - better products, less money, better outcome.
I think CarCareProducts has an outlet up North now. Waxit as well - maybe.