Support VWWC

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 23

Thread: Is my DSG normal, jerky at low speed?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Wellington Point,QLD
    Posts
    4
    Users Country Flag

    Is my DSG normal, jerky at low speed?

    Hi All,

    Im new to the Skoda / DSG family and would like to know if my DSG is normal as it is no where near as smooth as a normal auto gear box.

    From takeoff if i put my foot down to fast the box seems to jerk into gear unless i take my foot of the brake and let it roll a little and then i can seem to ease it on smoother. My wife has a 2007 Jetta TFSI and the smoothness of the DSG in it is far better than the Skoda VRS.

    Any advice would be good as i have recently purchased the 2009 Skoda VRS and its new car warantee runs out shortly.

    Can the smoothness of the change be an ECU issue?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Canberra, ACT
    Posts
    2,260
    Users Country Flag
    not normal.
    mine is smooth on takeoff, and smooth when coming to a stop.

    doubt its an ecu issue.
    either there is something wrong with the switch on the brake pedal, or faulty mechatronics.
    MY17 Superb 162TSI, Business Grey, Tech+Comfort Pack, APR ECU+TCU Stg 1, SLA, Rieger Splitter + Side Skirts, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Hardrace Swaybar, TPMS

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Emu Plains, NSW
    Posts
    134
    Users Country Flag
    Darkshadow I disagree. Plenty of chats on plenty of forums worldwide (and by motoring journos) about the 'hesitation' of DSG boxes from standstill.

    I find that is the case especially when starting from cold (it gets smoother once the transmission oil is warm) but if you don't allow a split second between brake release and throttle application the DSG box can jerk...and no matter how many times I've tried to 'teach' the missus she still doesn't get it lol.

    You can easily adapt to this though and for me it doesn't detract from the benefits of the box in terms of lightning quick and ultra smooth gear changes on the go.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Castle Hill, NSW
    Posts
    205
    Users Country Flag
    Our 90TSI Octavia with a 7 speed DSG is A LOT less smooth compared my car. The best way of taking off as smoothly as possible is to "feel" the clutch engage and then accelerate.

    People need to remember a DSG is technically a robotised manual transmission. My friend who works for VW contantly says that people who can't drive manuals never seem to be able to drive a DSG properly or they think there is something wrong with the car. Whereas people coming from manual transmissions love DSG's.

    With a manual transmission if you let the clutch out extremely fast and stomp on the accelerator you will either give yourself a pain in the neck or stall the car. Same applies to a DSG; you need to let the clutch engage for the split second before you accelerate. It's all about "feeling" and somewhat controlling what the transmission is doing - same as in a manual...
    MY11 Octavia RS 2.0lt TSI DSG Liftback - Candy White

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    643
    Users Country Flag

    Red face

    It probably just needs a DSG reset, or a good spirited drive in sport mode. Hesitation alone wouldn't be enough to point to a DSG fault.
    TR 08 Golf GT TDI, Custom Code Phase 1, Milltek Exhaust, Whiteline RSB + ALK, APR Carbonio Intake

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    NSW
    Posts
    324
    I'd have to agree with ausspace, my 90tsi 7spd DSG is definitely a lot less smooth (at low speeds only) than my brother's mkV Gti with the 6 spd DSG. This might just mean I require a DSG7 update that i've been reading about with the golf mkVI's.

    It did take me a little bit of 'learning' to 'catch' it right though (coming from an old Tiptronic A4).
    2012 Yeti 77TSI, Candy White
    ---
    ydad.com.au: musings of a dad growing up - the blog.
    cbay.com.au: photography, video, design - creations.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Canberra, ACT
    Posts
    2,260
    Users Country Flag
    Quote Originally Posted by RSOK View Post
    Darkshadow I disagree. Plenty of chats on plenty of forums worldwide (and by motoring journos) about the 'hesitation' of DSG boxes from standstill.

    I find that is the case especially when starting from cold (it gets smoother once the transmission oil is warm) but if you don't allow a split second between brake release and throttle application the DSG box can jerk...and no matter how many times I've tried to 'teach' the missus she still doesn't get it lol.

    You can easily adapt to this though and for me it doesn't detract from the benefits of the box in terms of lightning quick and ultra smooth gear changes on the go.

    maybe mine is "defective" - because cold or warm, regardless, its smooth when taking off.
    the many below zero (temps) here in canberra ensures the cold starts.

    like u, i don't race from lifting of the brake pedal to stomping onto the accelarator pedal. like u said, the clutch needs to time engage initially, so i give it a sec or two between pedals.

    my previous car (holden astra) used to automatically go in "neutral" when stationary & brakes applied. so when talking off, i had to wait 1-2 secs before applying throttle.
    so i'm used to this behaviour.


    DSG-7 has always been known to be more jerky than the DSG-6.
    MY17 Superb 162TSI, Business Grey, Tech+Comfort Pack, APR ECU+TCU Stg 1, SLA, Rieger Splitter + Side Skirts, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Hardrace Swaybar, TPMS

  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Lyndhurst Victoria
    Posts
    126
    Users Country Flag
    I have mentioned on here before that my VRS TSI DSG wagon can seem quite jerky in its general operation, particularly at low speeds.

    But, as the K's have risen (nearing 8000km now) it has gotten noticeably better, but still not perfect.

    I too have experienced the abrupt BANG after an eager throttle tip in from standstill, but quickly realised that's just simply not what I should be doing! The first time I did it I thought I had been tapped from behind!

    As far as a fault, I'm not sure. As a possible design flaw - maybe.
    *****CURRENTLY FOR SALE***** See Sale thread
    Candy White MY12.5 Octavia VRS TSI DSG wagon.
    Black Plasti Dipped wheels, grille surround, roof rails and badges. Lowered 20mm, torque arm insert.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Bathurst, NSW
    Posts
    542
    Quote Originally Posted by ausspace87 View Post
    People need to remember a DSG is technically a robotised manual transmission. My friend who works for VW contantly says that people who can't drive manuals never seem to be able to drive a DSG properly or they think there is something wrong with the car. Whereas people coming from manual transmissions love DSG's.
    Agree with you there. It is just not an auto, you need to treat it like you know how a manual works, let it slip into gear before nailing it etc. I do hear the occasional clunk, but I heard that all the time from the auto in my Falcon XR6T

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Sydney, NSW
    Posts
    1,371
    Users Country Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by dArK5HaD0w View Post
    maybe mine is "defective" - because cold or warm, regardless, its smooth when taking off.
    looks like mine might also be broken

    perhaps tell us what year and model year your car is. mines a 2011 MY12 with the DQ250. its very smooth, even if i stomp on the throttle from the brake.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
| |