Golf 6 Wagon

[Skoda Convert]

Has anyone sen what VW are doing with this Golf Wagon launch? I was poking around in the Golf 6 thread and noticed some of the guys and gals were talking about the Golf 6 Wagon and its rumoured pricing.

I looked at some Journo's write ups and it appears VW has hinted that it will be like most estate variants in the VW range and roughly $2,000 more than the hatch variant. This would mean a $27,990 price point in the 1.4ltr manual.

Thats a quieter car on road, same platform, stronger more fuel efficient engine and most of all the badge for (give or take $500) the same starting price.

Whats the logic behind this? They can't honestly believe that this won't have an impact on what appears to be diminished Skoda sales, or am i looking at this all wrong?

[spellbound]

I have a feeling its all tied into the resurection of the wagon , economy and some suv's is dont go hand in hand .

Big wagons use lots of fuel , so lets down size .

As a competitor to the octavia , yes in the lower end models , the rs wagon , correct me if iam wrong is the biggest seller in the octavia range , so unless they do a golf gti wagon the rs should not suffer .

Personally if they did a performance wagon in the golf i would be there , as my first choice was a gti , but i needed the space .

Time will tell i suppose , iam really keen on the superb wagon , which may steal sales from the passat .

Maybe its just VAG blitzing the whole market .

[dazag]

So VW Australia is thinking of bringing these into the country then?? I have yet to see an Estate version of the Golf Hatch, but then again I haven't really been looking.
Would be interesting to see the dimension differences between the Golf Estate and the Skoda Octavia, even though based on the same Golf platform (although I had heard the Octavia is based on a passat chassis running golf running gear ??) I would imagine the Golf Estate would cater for the smaller car market, where as the Octavia is more the mid size market.

But that's just an unadvised opinion because I know nothing of the Golf estate.

[Antiplastix]

I the back of this months "Wheels" mag. there is a short blurb on it. Doesn t really tell you much, though it does have a picture of the Mk.6 Golf Wagon.

[backdoc]

So VW Australia is thinking of bringing these into the country then?? I have yet to see an Estate version of the Golf Hatch, but then again I haven't really been looking.
Would be interesting to see the dimension differences between the Golf Estate and the Skoda Octavia, even though based on the same Golf platform (although I had heard the Octavia is based on a passat chassis running golf running gear ??) I would imagine the Golf Estate would cater for the smaller car market, where as the Octavia is more the mid size market.

But that's just an unadvised opinion because I know nothing of the Golf estate.

I was told the Octy runs the Golf estate chasis, which WAS unique as that wasn't sold in Oz.

[K1W1]

I the back of this months "Wheels" mag. there is a short blurb on it. Doesn t really tell you much, though it does have a picture of the Mk.6 Golf Wagon.

VW announced the Mk6 Golf wagon availability late last year (April arrival if I remember correctly) it was in the motoring section of the daily papers at the time.

[zach]

My 2c the Golf wagon/estate looks like an afterthought whereas the Octavia wagon/estate looks like it's meant to be!

[Spook]

So VW Australia is thinking of bringing these into the country then?? I have yet to see an Estate version of the Golf Hatch, but then again I haven't really been looking.
Would be interesting to see the dimension differences between the Golf Estate and the Skoda Octavia, even though based on the same Golf platform (although I had heard the Octavia is based on a passat chassis running golf running gear ??) I would imagine the Golf Estate would cater for the smaller car market, where as the Octavia is more the mid size market.

But that's just an unadvised opinion because I know nothing of the Golf estate.

VW isn't "thinking" anymore, it's definitely happening. It is on the VW website for registration to get more info.

As for dimensions, per the UK VW website, the Golf Estate has the following:

Length (mm): 4,534
Width (mm): 1,781
Height (mm): 1,504
Wheelbase (mm): 2,578
Luggage capacity (L): 505 / 1,495 (rear seats up/down)

Compared to Octavia Wagon:

Length (mm): 4,569 (4,599 for RS)
Width (mm): 1,769
Height (mm): 1,468 (1,451 for RS)
Wheelbase (mm): 2,578
Luggage capacity (L): 580 / 1,620 (rear seats up/down)

So they both have the same wheelbase, but the Golf Estate is shorter, wider, taller, and has less cargo space.

[TuNeS]

The Golf Wagon has been around in Europe and the USA for ages, although they are sold as Jetta wagons. I saw heaps of them in NY late last year.

The golf wagon will take Skoda's sales in the entry level wagons, but I think the 118TSI and the vRS wont be affected at all. The golf comes with a crappy choice of engines. You also get a bigger boot in the Skoda's.

Also, the Golf wagon is built in Mexico from what I have been reading, while the Octavia's are built in Europe in the Czech Reupublic. Just hope siesta doesnt conicide with your Golf Wagon build

Also, the Octavia is built on the Golf platform shared with many other VAG cars. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswa...oup_A_platform

The PQ35 platform is designed to be more modular and flexible than previous A platforms. For the first time, a fully independent suspension front and rear will be present in all A platform vehicles. There is also a derivative version of this platform for 'B'-class cars (with larger variations expected in the future) called PQ46.

PQ35 is intended for compact-size vehicles, and PQ46 is an enlarged version for mid-size vehicles, such as the Volkswagen Passat. A common misconception is that the PQ46 generation of the Passat is based on the "B6" (PL46) platform. However, this transverse-engined Passat has little in common with the longitudinal-engined "B6" Audi A4.

Current and expected PQ35 platform cars (Typ numbers in brackets):

* Audi A3 Mk2 (8P)
* Volkswagen Touran (1T)
* Volkswagen Caddy (2K)
* SEAT Altea (5P)
* Volkswagen Golf Mk5 / GTI / R32 / Rabbit Mk5 (1K)
* Škoda Octavia Mk2 (1Z)
* Volkswagen Golf Plus (5M)
* SEAT Toledo Mk3 (5P)
* Volkswagen Jetta Mk5 (1K)
* SEAT León Mk2 (1P)
* Audi TT Mk2 (8J)
* Volkswagen Eos (1F)
* Volkswagen Tiguan (5N)
* Volkswagen Scirocco (13)
* Audi Q3
* Volkswagen Golf Mk6 (5K)
* Škoda Yeti

[JP-009]

Just in reference to Spook's stats, one of the key reasons that I bought the Octavia was the depth/length of the 'boot'. It is very important for us to be able to store the pram in length ways (and not across) the boot to make better use of the space avaliable.

This was not possible in our Mk5 Golf (which I was very sad to sell), and would not be possible in the current Golf wagon/estate.

External dimentions and total volume figures are fine, but it is what is on the inside of the car where you sit and store stuff that is really important to me.

I will have to go to the UK site and check out the interior figures to compare usable space as a matter of curiosity.

I agree with Zack, that the Golf wagon rear looks very much an after thought. VW should have stuck with the original hatch and lights, but just extended the body.

Beware that I think that my 2TDI Elegance wagon is the greatest family car that I have ever driven and owned, so my comments are prejudiced