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Thread: Driveline Shudder when wheelspinning. What is it and how to fix??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damo105 View Post
    My RS does it too. And not just when I'm very heavy footed. With the conti's it seems to break traction quite easily in wet or greasy conditions, or under certain conditions in the dry. When it does break traction I nearly always get the axle tramping. My previous car (Peugeot 207GT) also did it, so I just assumed it's a common trait in front wheel drive cars?
    Exactly the same, bad axle tramp. I assumed everyone suffered the same.
    50% of the time it'll just spins, 50% its spins and tramps. Probably road surface the difference.
    Which is the #2 reason why I want more grip, per my other thread here about the Conti's and getting new rubber.

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    If it's become worse you prob should find out if it's the shocks, specific worn bushes or just the soft design.

    New parts may not fix symptoms of other worn parts.

    Have a look under the car for play when you move the wheel (when jacked up).

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    I used to get it when we lived on a hill and I had to turn right even in our Mazda 323 Sp20, changing to Yoko c.drives stopped it a lot. I'd also see it in our Mazda 6 going around a certain corner, in all cases it was due to me flooring it, you just learn to back off. Crap tyres do make it worse though.

    Never seen it in the Skoda...or if I did, it must have been a long time ago...the PE2s hold on pretty well, but I'm also sure the ESP is actually stopping it rather than causing it.

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    The sure fire cure is to change the resonant frequency of the front suspension so that the tramp frequency is higher than this. Basically, you need either lighter spring rate or heavier damping.

    As noone has stated, worn bushings and dampers will make tramp more likely as it raises the resonant frequency.

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    Mines done it from new, so I wouldn t be to concerned with worn suspension parts yet, and yes it is worse once chipped, live with it or dont put the boot in until you have full traction.
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    All very sound advice.

    It hasn't gotten worse, just done it ever since i got the car.

    Am thinking about putting the Anti-lift kit in anyway to see if it reduces tramp. Even if it doesnt will firm up turn in a little and make it a bit more precise.

    Bluefin should be here tomorrow or Monday, depends if DHL get their act together!

    If i do (which is likely) install the anti-lift kit, i will report back with a thread to detail how it goes.

    Thanks again everyone.
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    I have a Stage 1 APR Mk6 Golf 118 TSI + SprintBooster, and I've had axle tramp a few times when trying to get a quick start in wet/greasy conditions (stock Hankook tyres). I just have to baby it through the short 1st gear, and then I'm usually ok to put the foot down a bit more. Taking the foot off the brake a bit earlier also helps a tiny bit as the HSA stops clinging.

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    I had it badly too especially when using launch control.

    SEMI-SOLUTION: New tyres: Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE002
    Super grippy, and around $820 a pair.
    Just installed them on the front two tyres and there is a noticeable difference.
    Mind you, I still shudder with ESP on, but not as much.

    FYI:
    Just got my 15,000 km service and they had to replace the ABS control module... could have something to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireside View Post
    I had it badly too especially when using launch control.

    FYI:
    Just got my 15,000 km service and they had to replace the ABS control module... could have something to do with it.
    You say they changed the ABS Module - Was the car showing a fault or was it picked up during the service check ?
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    Warning lights were coming up, the (ABS) & (!) ones. Then it said something like "Stability control failure!" , "Get your arse to the dealer" etc...

    Luckily, I was already booked in for Tuesday mourning!

    Runs like a dream now, not sure what else they did during the service to make it less jerky between 1-2-3 gears?
    Might have just needed to clear the error log. But I haven't experienced such smooth gear changes in D since I bought it.

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