does your DGS ride the clutch?

[harlie]

Hi All

I have a query to those with TDi and DSG – any feedback please on what you car is like.

My Octi 2FL rides the clutch in 1st and 2nd when starting off or roll-on. Engine goes to 1500rpm and the clutch takes up from there. Really noticeable on our driveway, it has a 0.6m rise over 4m, fwd or reverse the car rides the clutch @1500rpm. It is very smooth, no signs of anything wrong. I just think it can’t be good for the clutches. The GolfV engages much lower.

The Trans seems to operating perfectly – I assume this is a feature. Will a DSG tune change this or do I not worry about it?

thanks

[K4neX]

A DSG is essentially a automated manual gear box, to me it is quite normal for it to ride the clutch going up a slope. Coming from a manual car just 2 weeks ago, I used to park on a steep driveway and had to ride the clutch in 1st gear to get off the driveway and the take up point of the clutch is around 1500 rpm in 1st gear, higher in 2nd.

Having said that, you have control in when to release the clutch pedal and how much throttle to apply while riding the clutch in a manual car. In a DSG, my experience so far is not to creep in any situation and give it more pressure on the throttle, so the clutch would take up sooner. And since I came from driving a manual car and my right foot learned the pedal pressure to give enough rev for the clutch to engage, I have yet to experience the lag when take of from standstill.

[bobski]

Yep, I've got a TSI with a slight rise out of the driveway and if you let it take up the revs itself, it'll ride the clutch a bit. I'd do the same thing with a manual, so not too worried.

[nat225]

On crawling traffic mine rides on 2nd gear, bit annoying but sliding the gear lever to manual mode fixes it to 1st gear.

[K4neX]

On crawling traffic mine rides on 2nd gear, bit annoying but sliding the gear lever to manual mode fixes it to 1st gear.

Would Sport mode stay in 1st a bit longer too?

[blutopless2]

"S" mode will rev out longer between gear changes.... though it will also hold the lower gears much longer even when you are at your desired cruise speed... ie in D at 60kmh if it was normally in 6th in S mode it may hold in 4th.

[K4neX]

"S" mode will rev out longer between gear changes.... though it will also hold the lower gears much longer even when you are at your desired cruise speed... ie in D at 60kmh if it was normally in 6th in S mode it may hold in 4th.

I guess that would help crawling in traffic too

[harlie]

S mode in both TDIs is completely pointless. It holds gear far too long to the point the engine is long out of the torque band. Mine is quicker in D. Push the throttle and it goes to 3500 and changes - S goes to 5+ at which point it has nothing.

So does anyone with a DSG tune have input on whether the tune helps with the riding? I’m sure it would lift off quicker if it didn’t ride so much.
I asked this Q over in a DSG Tune thread but one of the Moderators deleted it with a note to say I’m not allowed to ask the same question twice.

[dArK5HaD0w]

i've got the hp performance tune.
i don't believe i noticed it riding before the tune.
on occasions, depending on the slope, i can sometimes notice it - but its not a worry.
with tune, its not so eager to race to 6th gear.

i must point out too, after the tune, "sports" mode becomes so much more enjoyable....almost to a point of craving/addiction!!
dunno if the full apr exhaust has anything to do with it, but downshifts in sports mode r sublime......i know i know, i can't stop saying that