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Thread: Is a CR diesel engine worth waiting for?

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    Is a CR diesel engine worth waiting for?

    Hi, it looks like 'week 22' and on build Octavias (including Scouts) will have the new 2.0-liter TDI CR DPF engine. Can anyone out there advise whether it's likely to make a big enough difference (performance, economy, noise?) that I should order a new one (vs a demo or current stock)?

    It's basically gonna be the Golf 103TDI engine now, right?

    Cheers, Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarfies View Post
    It's basically gonna be the Golf 103TDI engine now, right?
    To this, yes. So 20Nm more torque IIRC, plus quieter and smoother running, with a 500rpm higher redline.

    Whether it's worth waiting for is up to you - I'm pretty happy with my PD, so it would probably come down to the deal you can do.....
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    Hmm I didn't realise they were still used the PD, I thought at least the normal Octavias were all pretty much CR since launch here. I have heard a few people wish they could have got the PD to avoid the DPF issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofy View Post
    I have heard a few people wish they could have got the PD to avoid the DPF issues.
    My PD Scout has a DPF and I had big issues early on......
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    Common rail has the benefits of better off boost performance, far better fuel mixtures and power at any given rpm, better fuel metering and economy and much quieter running. It will actually be FAR better for a DPF overe the GT PD with a DPF, as I reckon it'll produce less soot overall. Also will allow FAR more chip tuning potential long term. The "MKV" 103kw non DPF is obviously a car that escapes the DPF potential problems.

    The downside is the MK6 has even more antipollution gear, and if something contaminates the CR pump or injectors, it really gets messed up. Expensive repairs.

    Currently, aftermarket tuners are getting more torque out of the PD engines, but I bet that will change. Antipollution and even more complex ECU's will hamper the process though.
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    Yes, it was for me. I held out over 4 months to get a 2.0 CRD Octavia vRS wagon.

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    When was the common rail engine introduced to Australian models? I'm looking at a 2008 Octavia Elegance 2 litre diesel (build date Oct. '07). Would that be common rail?

    According to Wikipedia it was 2010. Does that sound right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdTamar View Post
    When was the common rail engine introduced to Australian models? I'm looking at a 2008 Octavia Elegance 2 litre diesel (build date Oct. '07). Would that be common rail?

    According to Wikipedia it was 2010. Does that sound right?
    No the 07 is not CR

    The CR engine arrived with the FL MY10 cars. My Dec 09 registered vRS has a CR engine.
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    So what do yuz reckon about this (2008 Elegance AWD $25k with 54,500 km and a few extras):

    2008 SKODA OCTAVIA ELEGANCE 1Z Private Cars For Sale in TAS - carsales.com.au

    It's got the older type 2l diesel, no warranty left, no xenons (which I'd like, though they're rare).

    I offered $22k. Given that there are a couple of sub 20,000 km '09/'10 Scouts around listed at $32k how much more is it worth? - and yes I know the answer is 'whatever you're willing to pay'

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    The option list is impressive, I would say it is a good buy as long the condition is as advertised.

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