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Thread: Anyone had issues with clutch wear after a stage 1 flash?

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    That would be because a JB1 upgrade is only a mild tune compare to a "proper" stage 1 ECU flash.

    Having said that if you were concerned about your clutch then a mild tune is probably going to be safer - but then it begs the question of why you're tuning it in the first place....

    Just upgrade your clutch and go stage 2+!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger73 View Post
    That would be because a JB1 upgrade is only a mild tune compare to a "proper" stage 1 ECU flash.

    Having said that if you were concerned about your clutch then a mild tune is probably going to be safer - but then it begs the question of why you're tuning it in the first place....

    Just upgrade your clutch and go stage 2+!!!!
    If only the budget would allow lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pullstarter View Post
    If only the budget would allow lol.
    There's plenty of better value tunes on the market. No need to get the local one, just because it's there.

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    While we're on the subject of flywheels I'm guessing mine would be a dual mass? 2008 TFSI?
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    Yes it would, I was told they go a lot, so many people made them single mass when they died but never heard of anyone having issues in Oz with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pullstarter View Post
    I'm not sure if the older TFSI models may have had a stronger clutch than the later models? Or maybe the newer engines produce more torque than the older ones when flashed? The current model clutches certainly don't seem to handle it
    not sure about the clutch packs specifically, but i believe the new mk3 rs (and mk7 gti) use the same DSG DQ250 transmission, which is officially rated at 350nm. the same DQ250 is mapped slightly differently to match the Gen3 EA888 TSI engine, but its essentially the same hardware.

    with the stg 2+, the Gen1 EA888 TSI engine, its pushing out approx 465nm, and 278 horses (207 kw) with the same transmission. well, that's the figures apr claims. i haven't done a dyno yet.
    in addition, the dsg performance tune i got modifies the torque limiter and increases torque capacity to 450 – 500nm.
    with the dsg tune, the clutch shudder is dramatically reduced. It also means a longer life of gearbox and clutch packs, less clutch slip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dArK5HaD0w View Post
    not sure about the clutch packs specifically, but i believe the new mk3 rs (and mk7 gti) use the same DSG DQ250 transmission, which is officially rated at 350nm. the same DQ250 is mapped slightly differently to match the Gen3 EA888 TSI engine, but its essentially the same hardware.

    with the stg 2+, the Gen1 EA888 TSI engine, its pushing out approx 465nm, and 278 horses (207 kw) with the same transmission. well, that's the figures apr claims. i haven't done a dyno yet.
    in addition, the dsg performance tune i got modifies the torque limiter and increases torque capacity to 450 – 500nm.
    with the dsg tune, the clutch shudder is dramatically reduced. It also means a longer life of gearbox and clutch packs, less clutch slip.
    The car is manual, clutches fall over on K04 cars all the time. Not so much on the k03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofy View Post
    Yes it would, I was told they go a lot, so many people made them single mass when they died but never heard of anyone having issues in Oz with them.
    The biggest expense with the clutch replacement I did on the MKVI was the new DMF, cost a bloody fortune!
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofy View Post
    Yes it would, I was told they go a lot, so many people made them single mass when they died but never heard of anyone having issues in Oz with them.
    Any issues with going to a single mass from a dual mass?
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    I've been running stage 2 in a mk2 DSG VRS for 3 years without any problems

    In rush hour traffic when crawling I don't let it modulate the clutch in 2nd, I put it in manual and select 1st

    Been on the track plenty of times

    I've mastered the art of accelerating just fast enough to match bogans in commodores (keeps their hopes up) and then destroy them when they change gear.

    Pretty happy

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