What have you done to your mk4 (golf/bora) today?

**Mr Messy** · 17-06-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by qsilverza

You don't use a HANS device do you ? I was thinking of one for my audi 80 q but I am not so sure as some have said it really restricts movement...

If I may...
Bob Pearson left his HANS device on the shelf at this year's Bathurst 12 hour. He crashed straight on at forrests elbow and cracked his ribs and a couple of vertbra. I spoke with him after the crash and he said he'd have been fine had he been wearing the HANS device.

There are good reasons why they are mandatory in categories like V8 Supercar and F1.

Plenty of guys I've worked with in the V8s swear by them, but a couple aren't keen. If I remember rightly Brad Jones rolled his V8 and couldn't get out quickly becuse he was upside down, trying to negotiate his way through the cage etc while wearing the device.

**quozl** · 17-06-2009, 02:35 PM

Definitely a must have Mr Messy I agree 100%. Was Bob the one in the Blue Mazda who binned it so spectacularly? I noticed on the 12 hour webpage they are using the images as promo material, not a nice way to get recognised. I was suprised when he basically walked away from that, if I remember correctly it spat the motor out of the chassis in one of the many rolls it took through the kitty litter.

Cheers Al

**Mr Messy** · 17-06-2009, 03:25 PM

You're thinking of Len Cave's 2008 rollover in the MPS.

Pearson was driving one of these:

**gavs** · 17-06-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Messy

If I may...
Bob Pearson left his HANS device on the shelf at this year's Bathurst 12 hour. He crashed straight on at forrests elbow and cracked his ribs and a couple of vertbra. I spoke with him after the crash and he said he'd have been fine had he been wearing the HANS device.

There are good reasons why they are mandatory in categories like V8 Supercar and F1.

Plenty of guys I've worked with in the V8s swear by them, but a couple aren't keen. If I remember rightly Brad Jones rolled his V8 and couldn't get out quickly becuse he was upside down, trying to negotiate his way through the cage etc while wearing the device.

A classic example of why they have become mandatory was Dale Ernhart senior in NASCAR. Hit the wall with such speed that his skull detatched from his spine and killed him instantly. That's what they're for and i know that i'd rather the slight inconvenience over a detached head.....

On another note, I just opened up my whiteline swaybar and it's missing 2 washers!!! Grrrrrr

**qsilverza** · 17-06-2009, 03:52 PM

Yes, I guess, I am looking at it from the point of view of a motorcyclist

A normal car is already about 60x safer

But I agree, I will get one with Hans device etc. only sucky thing is, is my motorbike helmet won't have HANS attachments so need to get a new one.

That suck's re the washsers, can you use the old ones ?

Originally Posted by gavs

A classic example of why they have become mandatory was Dale Ernhart senior in NASCAR. Hit the wall with such speed that his skull detatched from his spine and killed him instantly. That's what they're for and i know that i'd rather the slight inconvenience over a detached head.....

On another note, I just opened up my whiteline swaybar and it's missing 2 washers!!! Grrrrrr

**gavs** · 17-06-2009, 04:10 PM

Unfortunately it's a rear adjustable one, so no original washers

At least at i work at an aftermarket parts manufacturer so I can borrow a few new washers.....

**Gravey** · 17-06-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by goodfella

i fit my new dogbone mount... havent stopped driving it since...

window shopped for a new set of new rims for the Bora... hmm 17 or 18!!!?!

I have 17s on mine and I'd vote 18s just beacuase they dont quite fill out the arches enough for my liking, although they look much better than 16s......then again 17s probably look alright too if it's lowered and would probably drive better

**qsilverza** · 17-06-2009, 05:15 PM

Plus your tyres are that much cheaper

Originally Posted by Gravey

I have 17s on mine and I'd vote 18s just beacuase they dont quite fill out the arches enough for my liking, although they look much better than 16s......then again 17s probably look alright too if it's lowered and would probably drive better

**goodfella** · 17-06-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Gravey

I have 17s on mine and I'd vote 18s just beacuase they dont quite fill out the arches enough for my liking, although they look much better than 16s......then again 17s probably look alright too if it's lowered and would probably drive better

I actually sourced a set of Bora Sports 17s from thestu, so now its sitting pretty...pretty high actually, I need to lower it now.