mk4 GTI 1.8 turbo vs Bora V6 4mo which is better and why

[Timmyrgm]

It's really not something that can be compared easily, I'll give you my opinion of the gti after owning one for a year.

With the right tyre, bracing and suspension set up. You wouldn't think it was fwd. I mean you do have the torque steer when doing lots of throttle exiting a sharp turn. But you learn to manage it. Friends are amazed at how much it hugs the road. Only on eibach springs and front and rear strut braces.
You already have an undertuned car from stock. So getting some respectable power is not hard at all. The gti is practical, im a carpenter. And most of my bulky tools fit In the boot. There is a ton of aftermarket support for them. The bora's are Properly classy and I love them, I wish I could give you an opinion on them but I've never driven one.

I hope this helps a bit anyway

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[blackers10]

Thanks for that Timmy and everybody else who has given some info as any information is good information
It is certainly a hard choice as both seem like exceptional cars, especially for the money, It seems to come down to boot vs no boot and 4cyl vs 6cyl rego and AWD.

Are the AWD gearboxes strong in the Boras? as it is often the weak link in most AWD vehicles ?

[h100vw]

Thanks for that Timmy and everybody else who has given some info as any information is good information
It is certainly a hard choice as both seem like exceptional cars, especially for the money, It seems to come down to boot vs no boot and 4cyl vs 6cyl rego and AWD.

Are the AWD gearboxes strong in the Boras? as it is often the weak link in most AWD vehicles ?

The boxes are tough in both 2 and 4WD definitely change the oil for synthetic, Redline is really good but there's others that are compatible.

Synthetic oil can really improve the changes of an average box. It'll even go some way to fixing crunchy syncros if you are lucky. My Polo was pretty rough when I got it and I thought I'd be up for a rebuild. I filled it with synthetic oil and until just now I had completely forgotten it was ever bad.

Gavin

[jamesatfish]

I can't comment exactly but up until a few weeks ago I had a Polo GTI (same setup as the Mk IV GTI) and Bora 4-Motion in the garage.

If you substitute Golf for Polo in the following comments:

The Polo was better because:

•It was noticeably lighter, making it far more agile on twisty roads and on the track.

•The 1.8T engine is easily tuneable - by the time I sold it the Polo had the APR Stage 3 (K04) setup but even with stock hardware and an ECU tune it pushes out more power than the 2.8L VR6.

•It has more room for carrying stuff. Particularly in my case because I had the rear seats removed, but even with just folding the seats flat the hatchback was far more capable for shifting larger bulky items than the sedan.


The Bora was better because:

•The VR6 engine sounds superb, even without an aftermarket exhaust system (mine was stock). It's a much better noise than the induction racket made by the 1.8T.

•The Bora had the best pedal feel for heel-and-toe shifting of any sub-$100K car I've driven. Gear shifts seemed so natural in the Bora, and you could blip the throttle on every downshift to enjoy more of the sweet engine note. The Polo's pedal placement and weighting made heel-and-toe shifting much harder, especially around town where you don't depress the brake pedal as far as when braking in anger on the track.

•Power-down in the Bora is much easier with the AWD system. The Polo in the wet really struggles (even with the LSD I had installed), whilst the 4Mo just gets the power down and goes. Obviously the Bora has more weight and less power so that helps the traction story also.

•Age aside, the Bora had a nicer interior. Leather seats with seat heating, digital climate control etc. My Polo (which had the standard cloth seats) was noticeably simpler / cheaper.


If you have a family, regularly need to take more than 1 passenger or prefer daily driver with a side of sporty, go the Bora. If you normally just drive by yourself, want to modify the bejeezus out of your car or prefer sporty with a side of daily driver, go the Golf.

[blackers10]

Thanks James, that is a great comparo
I drive the car 90% of the time solo, and sometimes on the weekend I may take our 1yo son and my wife in the car when we don't take her car(mind you my current car is a festiva 3 door and Her current car is an R33 4 door so it kind of makes sense to take the R33 as it is much larger and easier to get baby in and out of)

[SLAJ]

Mk4 GTI - Girls will throw their panties at you

Bora 4mo - Girls won't throw their panties at you

Nah seriously tho, I own a mk4 gti and i've driven Stu's Turbo Vr6 4mo Bora. I think it all depends on the suspension and engine setup you're gonna run, but the the end of the day driving the Bora just felt better to me because of the power and AWD thing, the whole thing just felt tougher.
I still prefer the look of the Golf and love the 1.8T engine.