Looking at buying 2000 Volkswagen Bora

**Golf Loon** · 03-03-2009, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Bug_racer

So your making an assumption without fact ?

I thought personal insults werent allowed , not very good for an admin to insult a professional mechanic .

Not very professional to critcize others and provide no facts either. That was my point.

Also its "You`re" not "Your". Just providing facts to help keep you gramatically correct mate.

**gerhard** · 03-03-2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Golf Loon

Not very professional to critcize others and provide no facts either. That was my point.

Also its "You`re" not "Your". Just providing facts to help keep you gramMatically correct mate.

Err, don't you just hate it when you criticize someone's grammar, and in the very act you spell the word incorrectly.....

**Golf Loon** · 03-03-2009, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by gerhard

Err, don't you just hate it when you criticize someone's grammar, and in the very act you spell the word incorrectly.....

Lol. Touche. Thanks Gerhard

**VW Convert** · 03-03-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Golf Loon

Lol. Touche. Thanks Gerhard

Touché actually LOL

Cheers

George

**Bug_racer** · 03-03-2009, 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=Golf Loon;289802]Not very professional to critcize others and provide no facts either. That was my point.

Also its "You`re" not "Your". Just providing facts to help keep you gramatically correct mate.[/QUOT

I dont come on this forum to learn English , its not my first language anyway so I have an excuse .

To keep on topic here is my info just from a little googling :

V6 0-100 in 7.4
v5 0-100 in 8.5

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio.../nl/?car=79805

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio.../nl/?car=81543

So can you please tell us where your figures come from ?

**Bug_racer** · 03-03-2009, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Golf Loon

Same or similar features to V6, but only FWD, not 4WD, but lighter and less to go wrong.
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How much experience do you actually have with 4 motions to make a statement like that ?

The 02m is VW/Audi strongest east west gearbox and the haldex will take about 700hp before the rear diff will shatter .

The O2j pops diff rivets like no tommorow once they get over 250hp through them .

**Nozzi** · 03-03-2009, 08:55 PM

I hear mazda's are nice hey!!

nah seriously... id get the v6 4motion.. everything is upgraded in that model compared to the standard 2.0 or the v5.

Like others have stated, just be carefull of the services its had or hasnt had.

**qsilverza** · 04-03-2009, 09:57 AM

I have done some research on this and many american's have seen 180,000 MILES or a lot more out of there VR's before having to replace the chain.

Chain is a bit like turbo's you will hear it starting to go as it will rattle but sure it can be a costly exercise if you don't so best to watch it.

Bora 6 is definately quicker than the V5 even with the added weight V5 feels gutless in comparison.Fail Wheel Drive car = light and economical but I would never consider one. Besides how much fun is it to power-slide an AWD car.... It's awesome and a challenge to with limited amount of power.

I can't believe that you would even consider a V5, the V6 is a stronger engine with a drivetrain that the AUDI TT 225 HP/TT 3.2 6, R32/S3 all high performance variant's especially the S3 which can get some serious numbers.

You could flog it all day, every day and it will take it because the engine doesn't give anywhere near what it is rated for in the Bora as per Bug's saying.

The haldex system is reactive but you can make it pre-emptive or more like a proper AWD car. Not hard.

Originally Posted by Golf Houso

15k will get you a nice one pretty much with around 100k on the clock, you can get them for a bit less at auction but also keep in mind both the V5 and the 6cyl need timing chains to be done at around 160-180k and thats an engine out job, and a very costly exercise!

**Damoo** · 04-03-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by qsilverza

I have done some research on this and many american's have seen 180,000 MILES or a lot more out of there VR's before having to replace the chain.

Chain is a bit like turbo's you will hear it starting to go as it will rattle but sure it can be a costly exercise if you don't so best to watch it.

Bora 6 is definately quicker than the V5 even with the added weight V5 feels gutless in comparison.Fail Wheel Drive car = light and economical but I would never consider one. Besides how much fun is it to power-slide an AWD car.... It's awesome and a challenge to with limited amount of power.

I can't believe that you would even consider a V5, the V6 is a stronger engine with a drivetrain that the AUDI TT 225 HP/TT 3.2 6, R32/S3 all high performance variant's especially the S3 which can get some serious numbers.

You could flog it all day, every day and it will take it because the engine doesn't give anywhere near what it is rated for in the Bora as per Bug's saying.

The haldex system is reactive but you can make it pre-emptive or more like a proper AWD car. Not hard.

Thanks for the advice, sure the V5 may be sluggish, but its cheaper, if I wanted something with some guts I'd go a BA Ford Fairlane for the same price, has the same luxury features, more space and of course, more power which would burn both the V5 and V6 models badly in the 0-100km/h and 1/4 tests, also be cheaper to insure/service because its an Australian car. I just can't justify the extra $5000 or so for the V6 model which has AWD and is slightly faster

Which I think is fair enough, no offense intended to anyone

I am heeding your advice though, so keep it coming!

**qsilverza** · 04-03-2009, 05:33 PM

No offense taken. The Fairlane is a totally different car and as I used to drive one as a company car I could compare them but it's not what you were looking for.

And if its pure speed we are after you could easily get a Nissan Pulsar GTI-R that would munch nearly everything on this forum but probably not as mature as some of the other cars on here in different area's.

You don't buy a ferrari because it goes fast, you buy a Ferrari because it's some of the best car money can buy.

At the end of the day, you need a list of your top 3 wants in a car and a budget.

Originally Posted by Damoo

Thanks for the advice, sure the V5 may be sluggish, but its cheaper, if I wanted something with some guts I'd go a BA Ford Fairlane for the same price, has the same luxury features, more space and of course, more power which would burn both the V5 and V6 models badly in the 0-100km/h and 1/4 tests, also be cheaper to insure/service because its an Australian car. I just can't justify the extra $5000 or so for the V6 model which has AWD and is slightly faster

Which I think is fair enough, no offense intended to anyone

I am heeding your advice though, so keep it coming!