Which Hose is more beneficial?

[Speed]

Looking at the various silicon hoses available thru ECS in an effort to gain more power and better throttle response for my GTI.

1. Turbo inlet hose.
2. Throttle body hose.
3. Up pipe hose.

The Forge turbo inlet hose says it gives 6-13whp. (I'm hoping for the 13 being chipped)
The throttle hose promises better response and strangely there is no after market option for the up pipe hose (Unless somehow I totally missed it in there).

Is it worth getting the throttle body hose and why is there no other option for the up pipe hose?
What about pancake pipe, any noticable increase replacing that or any other pipes I havn't mentioned?


Cheers

[McDub]

Not sure which is the up pipe hose...
I installed the apr TIP on my car under the advise of a certain company in an attempt to fix a problem my car was having.
Didn't fix the problem (surprise surprise), and i couldn't feel any benefit. Also showed no benefit on the dyno, though the car was running equally as bad so maybe not fair to say a silicon TIP has no benefit. You'd have to compare it on a healthy car for that.

Out of any "hose", i'd change the intake snorkel on the airbox to 3 inch piping, from what i've read that seems to be the best thing to do with any actual gains, and it should be dirt cheap to do. and easy to do. changing the TIP is a pain in the ass job.
i don't see a real need to change the throttle body hose unless it's damaged... but I wouldn't really know so don't listen to me!

[TazzyVR6]

I got a 2.5 inch exhaust and APR TIP installed at the same time and I think the two parts made the car more responsive. Unless your going to go BT I don't believe it would be worth changing any hose other than intake. It's one of those things that you do for the sack of it, I wouldn't expect any gains but the silicon does look nice... Unless your going to do the whole intake I wouldn't bother with one hose.

[Speed]

Not sure which is the up pipe hose...

The up pipe (as they call it on ECS website) is the pipe from intercooler to throttle body.

I got a 2.5 inch exhaust and APR TIP installed at the same time and I think the two parts made the car more responsive.

What does TIP stand for? Turbo inlet pipe?

[McDub]

The up pipe (as they call it on ECS website) is the pipe from intercooler to throttle body.

What does TIP stand for? Turbo inlet pipe?

isn't that the same as the throttle body hose? (pretty sure there is only one pipe between intercooler and throttle body.

and yes, turbo inlet pipe.
The TIP will experience a vacuum as it is on the downstream side of the turbo. this can apparantly cause the stock tube to collapse somewhat, therefore restricting flow.
the pipes upstream of the turbo are under positive pressure so they wouldn't experience this same problem.
you still may get some benefits when replacing them though...

[TazzyVR6]

isn't that the same as the throttle body hose? (pretty sure there is only one pipe between intercooler and throttle body.

and yes, turbo inlet pipe.
The TIP will experience a vacuum as it is on the downstream side of the turbo. this can apparantly cause the stock tube to collapse somewhat, therefore restricting flow.
the pipes upstream of the turbo are under positive pressure so they wouldn't experience this same problem.
you still may get some benefits when replacing them though...

Yep that's right that is the sales pitch for the TIP, everyone does them, I just wouldn't place it as high up on my list as everyone does. I'd wait and do it at the same time as FMIC and CAI.

[Speed]

isn't that the same as the throttle body hose? (pretty sure there is only one pipe between intercooler and throttle body.

There is but ECS list the 2 pipes with different names? Maybe the OEM one is known as an up pipe and aftermarketk called a throttle body hose?

Yep that's right that is the sales pitch for the TIP, everyone does them, I just wouldn't place it as high up on my list as everyone does. I'd wait and do it at the same time as FMIC and CAI.

I'm not going FMIC any time soon. Just replaced the smashed OEM IC, so that I would have less to do to get the car on the road sooner.
Won't be going BT either.
Since the car is chipped and runs a standard exhaust, my mods are as follows:
1. Check to see what N75 I have and upgrade to J (If not done already)
2. Clean/smooth the fins off the standard airbox, upgrade panel filter and run a cold air pipe from the bumper grill to the box.
3. Upgrade the TIP. (My car is chipped, so expect runs higher boost than standard, which with further effect the callapsing pipe)
4. Upgrade down pipe (Turbo to cat)
5. Fab the drivers side inner guard with a vent to allow better airflow for the OEM IC.

Aparrantly the TIP gives between 8 to 13 whp and the down pipe a further 8whp.
From that point, I'll just see how she goes but I'm chasing 150Kw at the flywheel.

Handling and throttle response are more important to me than outright acceleration and top end stomp.
This is supposed to be a daily afterall.