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Thread: HELP! 1.6l to 1.8T conversion wiring issues....

  1. #11
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    check faults, cleared them and checked again:

    VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4
    Data version: 20110418

    Thursday,22,September,2011,13:01:07:48399

    Chassis Type: 1J - VW Golf/Bora IV
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
    76

    Mileage: 229400km/142542miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-018-AGU.lbl
    Part No: 06A 906 018 AQ
    Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D06
    Coding: 04000
    Shop #: WSC 06313
    VCID: 71E2F7D51139

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
    Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001
    Coding: 03504
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 3E781CE910E7

    1 Fault Found:
    00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
    35-00 - -

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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
    Part No: 6Q0 909 601
    Component: 0C AIRBAG VW5 0004
    Coding: 12355
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: F0E472D19A33

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 920 805 B
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BOO V01
    Coding: 03703
    Shop #: WSC 30071
    VCID: 254AD3859571

    Part No: Ident
    Component: Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147
    Ident.-Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147

    1 Fault Found:
    01177 - Engine Control Unit
    65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent

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    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
    Coding: 00006
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: F0E472D19A33

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 959 799 Q
    Component: 4C Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
    Coding: 04097
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 4C9C4621565B

    Part No: 1J2959802C
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r

    Part No: 1J2959801D
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. BF0002r

    Part No: 1J4959811C
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. HL0002r

    Part No: 1J4959812C
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. HR0002H

    No fault code found.

    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------


    I expect the ABS faults as the sensors are unplugged whilst I am doing the suspension.
    My build thread here: 1.6 sr into 1.8T http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...-8t-63249.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 920 805 B
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BOO V01
    Coding: 03703
    Shop #: WSC 30071
    VCID: 254AD3859571

    Part No: Ident
    Component: Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147
    Ident.-Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147

    1 Fault Found:
    01177 - Engine Control Unit
    65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    What ECU, cluster, key/ignition barrel are you using?

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    using the 1.6 key and ignition, original 1.6 cluster, and the 1.8t ecu...
    My build thread here: 1.6 sr into 1.8T http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...-8t-63249.html

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    It wont work.
    You need to have the Key, ignition, cluster and ECU all the sync.
    The only was around it will be to get an IMMO delete or something coded from the stealership. (Pretty sure they can sync it all if you can prove ownership.)

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    i thought as much, but cant vagcom put them all together - the ecu is the only odd one out in the group - key, ignition and cluster are all original....
    My build thread here: 1.6 sr into 1.8T http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...-8t-63249.html

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    I'm not sure, that is above my head. I am using all donor car gear.

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    I am an utter noob when it comes to this kind of stuff but an immo defeat on the ECU would be a good place to start. Possibly get the ecu flashed with an upgrade and an immo defeat at the same time
    2003 Bora 4Motion

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    yeah JD i know what you mean
    Easy enough if you are swapping the lot, no compatability issues

    Colaron, what you say makes sense, but only the ecu is new so surely vagcom can sort this out....i could well be wrong

    other thing is that the car is undrivable, so i cant take it anywhere

    i erased learnt values and did the ecu swap sequence that ross tech advise, and still no luck

    current fault codes for any gurus out there - suspension is off , so ABS codes are expected:

    VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4
    Data version: 20110418

    Monday,26,September,2011,20:16:43:48399

    Chassis Type: 1J - VW Golf/Bora IV
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
    76

    Mileage: 229400km/142542miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-018-AGU.lbl
    Part No: 06A 906 018 AQ
    Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D06
    Coding: 04000
    Shop #: WSC 06313
    VCID: 71E2F7D51139

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
    Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001
    Coding: 03504
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 3E781CE910E7

    1 Fault Found:
    00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
    35-00 - -

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
    Part No: 6Q0 909 601
    Component: 0C AIRBAG VW5 0004
    Coding: 12355
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: F0E472D19A33

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 920 805 B
    Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. BOO V01
    Coding: 03703
    Shop #: WSC 30071
    VCID: 254AD3859571

    Part No: Ident
    Component: Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147
    Ident.-Nr. WEGFAHRS.:VWZ6Z0Y1997147

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
    Part No: 6N0 909 901
    Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
    Coding: 00006
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: F0E472D19A33

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
    Part No: 1J0 959 799 Q
    Component: 4C Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
    Coding: 04097
    Shop #: WSC 01317
    VCID: 4C9C4621565B

    Part No: 1J2959802C
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r

    Part No: 1J2959801D
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. BF0002r

    Part No: 1J4959811C
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. HL0002r

    Part No: 1J4959812C
    Component: 4C Tõrsteuerger. HR0002r

    No fault code found.

    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Last edited by Stan; 26-09-2011 at 08:31 PM.
    My build thread here: 1.6 sr into 1.8T http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...-8t-63249.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coralon View Post
    I am an utter noob when it comes to this kind of stuff but an immo defeat on the ECU would be a good place to start. Possibly get the ecu flashed with an upgrade and an immo defeat at the same time
    Thats the easy way around it but then you don't have an immo. Volkswagen don't exactly have a hard to destroy ignition.

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    From the rosstech site...
    Before Installing a USED ECU (we'll call it ECU #2) in vehicle, get the ECM coding from the current ECU (we'll call it ECU #1) in the vehicle
    [Select]
    [01 - Engine]
    Write down the 5-digit Soft. Coding
    [Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


    Install the USED ECU (ECU #2) in vehicle, (the Immobilizer light will be flashing, that's okay for now)
    [Select]
    [01 - Engine]
    Write down the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number from the "Extra" field. This the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number for ECU#2.
    [Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


    [17 - Instruments]
    Write down the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number from the "Extra" field. This the 14 digit Immobilizer ID number for ECU#1.
    [Close Controller, Go Back - 06]


    VW/Audi used to give out the 7 digit SKC to vehicle owners but as of 2005 they no longer do. Unless you already have that information, then you will not be able to use these instructions - you will likely need to have your dealer perform this procedure.


    Measure the car's battery voltage, it must be 12.5 V or higher.


    With the USED ECU (ECU #2) in vehicle, (the Immobilizer light will be flashing, that's okay for now)
    [Select]
    [01 - Engine]
    [Login - 11]
    [Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]
    Enter the 7-digit PIN from ECU #2, Date on which the PIN was GENERATED BY THE DEALER, along with the dealer's Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number
    [OK]
    [Do-It!]
    (You just "introduced" yourself to ECU#2 and the ECU should listen to you since you knew how to login. The ECU is now ready to learn its new home.)


    [Adaptation - 10]
    Enter 50 in Channel Number
    [Read]
    [Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]
    Enter the 7-digit PIN from ECU#1, Date on which the PIN was GENERATED BY THE DEALER, along with the dealer's Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number
    [OK]
    [Test]
    [Save]
    [Done, Go Back]
    (You just told ECU#2 that it has a new home, and that it should make friends with the Instrument Cluster.)


    Verify that the VIN now displayed in the "Extra" field in the Engine matches matches the VIN now displayed in the "Extra" field in the Instrument Cluster controller.


    Turn ignition OFF and then back on within one minute, but do not start vehicle for two minutes
    After 2 minutes, start the vehicle


    [Select]
    [01 - Engine]
    Verify that the 5-digit Soft. Coding matches the coding from the old ECU


    [Fault Codes - 02]
    Clear all DTC's.
    The bold bits from above... did you do this?
    Last edited by Coralon; 26-09-2011 at 08:47 PM.
    2003 Bora 4Motion

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