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Thread: Car lurching when stopped advice on faulty Codes possible MAF

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    Car lurching when stopped advice on faulty Codes possible MAF

    Hi all,

    Its my first post so here goes. I need some help with the following. My wife’s MK4 Golf 2002 engine code AVU 163000km on the clock which we bought a few months ago is lurching when stopped in traffic. It is almost like it is over fueling like an o2 sensor fail but there are no warning lights on the dash.
    I scanned it with my Autel 802 and came up with a few fault codes as follows including the O2 sensors. I have put in red what I believe they mean from ross-tech site

    17524 Active/static
    Bank1-Sensor1, Heater Circuit,Open circuit- o2 sensor 1

    18010 Passive/Sporadic
    Power supply terminal 30,Voltage too low- power battery/alternator

    17811 Passive/Sporadic
    Exhaust gas recirculation system,Control difference- ERG valve

    16485 Passive/Sporadic
    Mass or Volume Air Flow Circ.,Range/Performance- MAF sensor

    17526 Active/static
    Bank1-Sensor2, Heater Circuit,Open circuit- o2 sensor 2

    16500 Active/static
    Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor 1,Circuit Range/Performance- temp circuit

    Now the 17524 was Oxygen sensor 1 it was the original sensor from the look of it and I have replaced this. I have not done sensor 2 yet as having trouble locating a spare. Replacing sensor 1 has helped a bit but not stopped it.

    My concern is with the 17811 and 16485 codes. I think the 16485 code means the MAF sensor is gone. I tried cleaning it with the spray cleaner but it has not made a difference. Could a soak clean like I have seen online in isopropyl alcohol maybe bring it back to life?
    Would a faulty ERG valve cause the problems I am seeing.

    Also would not replacing the second o2 sensor cause the problems I am seeing or could it be something else like a fuse for the O2 sensors blown?

    I should also point out there are no gearbox problems and no exhaust gases visible escaping that could maybe cause problems.

    Any advice welcome

    Many thanks

    zeroasylum

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    SInce you've documented them, clear them out and drive it, and see what reappears.

    That will help you narrow it down.

    I would be looking at the MAF and temp sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
    SInce you've documented them, clear them out and drive it, and see what reappears.

    That will help you narrow it down.

    I would be looking at the MAF and temp sensor.

    Thanks for the replys guys. Have ordered a new MAF from the UK(much cheaper there) as almost certain that the issue. Dont suppose you know the temp sensor part number for that engine code AVU.

    Many thanks

    Zeroasylum

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    Thank you have ordered the part With regard to the 17811 Passive/Sporadic Exhaust gas recirculation system,Control differencecode could that be related to the other sensor smalfunctioning or should I order a new one as well or would a removal and good clean be enough.

    Thank you

    Zeroasylum

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    Remove the EGR valve if possible and clean it first. It may have stopped moving due to carbon build up.

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