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Thread: Bora 4mo ESP kicking in at slow speeds

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    Update: I brought my car back to the dealer today and their mechanic says that the rear diff needs to be serviced and is therefore not covered under warranty. Does that sound legitimate or are they jumping to the easiest conclusion for them, trying to get me to pay for a service and then if it doesn't fix it only then they will look properly?

    I'm just really disappointed and upset as this is a dangerous problem when u-turning, especially with oncoming traffic. The car jolts and practically stops..
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    I've experienced very similar issues recently and have yet to have the definitive solution for mine but I'm oh so close. During my testing to replicate the scenarios of crabbing and lurching during tight manoeuvres I've found that in most cases if I dip the clutch slightly a couple of times as I make the turn it seems to take the worst out of it and settle the car down. Not ideal, but it does help in my case. Otherwise I simply remove fuse 31 if I know I've got a bunch of heavy city driving to negotiate.

    I'm hoping to swap over my controller temporarily this weekend and hopefully discover that this is the culprit of my woes. I wouldn't be surprised if this is your problem too, it's far more common than I realised when I bought the 4Mo.

    All the best, Rossi ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTRossi View Post
    I've experienced very similar issues recently and have yet to have the definitive solution for mine but I'm oh so close. During my testing to replicate the scenarios of crabbing and lurching during tight manoeuvres I've found that in most cases if I dip the clutch slightly a couple of times as I make the turn it seems to take the worst out of it and settle the car down. Not ideal, but it does help in my case. Otherwise I simply remove fuse 31 if I know I've got a bunch of heavy city driving to negotiate.

    I'm hoping to swap over my controller temporarily this weekend and hopefully discover that this is the culprit of my woes. I wouldn't be surprised if this is your problem too, it's far more common than I realised when I bought the 4Mo.

    All the best, Rossi ; )
    Ahh thanks for the info Rossi. I took the car in tonight to Audvolks and we couldn't find a definitive answer. There are supposedly a couple of TTs with the same problem at the moment. I'll try to remove the fuse and see if the problem still occurs.

    Theories included stuffed diff or the clutches in the diff or diff oil needing a change. In my case if the diff needs changing it's better because it's under warranty and they don't cover a service.

    Good luck! Let me know how you go.
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    Update: On the weekend I had my Haldex and rear diff serviced and the problem's still there. Most likely a diff problem..
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    Hey i had a problem once in my 4 mo when ever i turned into swooping bend at the end of victoria rd at a faster speed than the sign says my esp would make the car unstable always when i turned into a right hander.
    turned out to be a stuffed wheel bearing. got that fixed and now i take that bend a lot faster before anything goes off.

    I dont know if that helps you but good luck with sorting out the problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpflorez View Post
    Update: On the weekend I had my Haldex and rear diff serviced and the problem's still there. Most likely a diff problem..
    The Haldex controller could still be at fault. Pull the park brake handle up a couple of clicks. It should stop the Haldex from working and then drive it and see if it's any different.

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    Just **** the traction control off, haldex is your traction control, i always drive with it off
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    Quote Originally Posted by type 17 View Post
    Just **** the traction control off, haldex is your traction control, i always drive with it off
    I was told somewhere that switching the ESP off doesn't completely turn it off, just makes it less aggressive. I'll have to disable it another way to test. Anyways I brought it back to the dealer and I'm refusing to take it back until it's fixed. I'm not wasting any more time or money..
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    That's true, there is a way on the sensors to disable them, I havent done it though.

    I think this is a bit of disinformation, it doesn't disable the haldex, just reduces the torque sent through theres a thread on vortex somewhere about it...

    The Haldex controller could still be at fault. Pull the park brake handle up a couple of clicks. It should stop the Haldex from working and then drive it and see if it's any different.
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    Been following this with interest - my ten yr old Bora has just started doing this - ie slow speed LH or RH U turn gets the ABS shudder and then maybe ten minutes later the warning light comes on. I have had mine since new and always VW serviced etc. and this is the first real 'unexplained' issue I have had with the car.

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