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Thread: +55 offset fit on a Bora?

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    Quote Originally Posted by team_v View Post
    Even though some people think they are BS, it should be stated anyway as we can't expect everyone on the forum to know what is legal and what is not.
    Think ill add some info about the rules to my sticky at the top of the mk4 section.
    Hopefully we can just point new members to that to save this argument all the time. While I love spacers and adapters, I do agree people should know what they are possibly getting themselves into

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manaz View Post
    And the fact that spacers are illegal for use on the road in Australia, and if you're caught with them on a car when you have an accident, you could theoretically have a claim refused (because the car isn't roadworthy, and keeping your car roadworthy is a requirement in almost all insurance policies).
    Ahhh Manaz, you are a little ray of sunshine, arn't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preen59 View Post
    ... Which is a load of BS (some Porsches even came standard with them!!). Our transport laws are a joke. Haha.
    Yep, they're allowed if the manufacturer shipped them with the car from the factory.

    The rule is designed to stop people from fitting them badly and causing problems - I've seen plenty of examples of non hub-centric spacers myself over the years, so the laws (although unfairly draconian) aren't totally without merit.
    Nothing to see here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PranK View Post
    Ahhh Manaz, you are a little ray of sunshine, arn't you?
    If someone runs spacers, it's better for them that they know the risks, at least that way they're making an educated decision.

    I'd rather be like that than encourage someone to do something that will end up with them in trouble or with someone injured or dead (which is worst case, but that's a pretty bad worst case - and I *have* seen terribly fitted spacers, as I noted in my previous post...).
    Nothing to see here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preen59 View Post
    ... Which is a load of BS (some Porsches even came standard with them!!). Our transport laws are a joke. Haha.


    I'm sure Manaz meant the aftermarket spacers. Because, there is a difference between the spacers that came with the car/model from the factory and the spacers that you buy who knows where and fit them to your car.
    And no, you can't buy the spacers from the dealer and fit them to the car that didn't come with the spacers from the factory. Just to make it easier to understand.

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    To be a nitpicker the OP could have been asking for a track or show car (20x6 +55 on Autosalon cars yo), therefore the legality of spacers would be irrelevant lol.

    In the end we need an auto-delete feature for these threads, or always merge them into the MK4 wheel thread.
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    Ok, ....since you brought the question up.
    The OP drives his car on the public roads, unles there are petrol stations at the race tracks.
    I thought that you would know that, since you've visited that thread http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...tml#post828688

    Last edited by Transporter; 17-09-2012 at 01:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transporter View Post
    Ok, ....since you brought the question up.
    The OP drives his car on the public roads, unles there are petrol stations at the race tracks.
    I thought that you would know that, since you've visited that thread http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...tml#post828688

    Sorry I don't take note of who makes what threads all the time! For argument's sake I may have assumed that he drives his perfectly legal and roadworthy car to the track, then changes to his +55 track wheels there.
    I'm not hungry anymore.

    I understand on public roads spacers/adapters are illegal and you can void your insurance if they find you have them. However realistically insurance companies will not pull you up on them unless the accident is related to a wheel falling off or something that will point them in that direction. We all know pretty much every car on the road can be found unroadworthy so if they want to screw you, they will.

    BTW this thread is going nowhere and I ain't helping......................
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    Quote Originally Posted by kapowww View Post
    However realistically insurance companies will not pull you up on them unless the accident is related to a wheel falling off or something that will point them in that direction.
    I've seen some pretty in-depth investigations by insurance companies - including having a private accident investigator grill me several times over an incident I was involved in, until he realised that the car hadn't just been abandoned on the road as they thought, but I'd driven it into a shopping centre car park to get it out of the way. The insurer was looking at avoid paying out based on their misunderstanding that I'd abandoned the car in an undrivable state on the road and not called the police (you're obliged to call the police if a vehicle involved in an accident cannot be driven away from the scene).

    Basically, if they can find a way to say that your actions were somehow negligent or illegal, they'll try to find a way to avoid paying out on the policy.
    Nothing to see here...

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