That's me, I'm done with Multivans

[jets]

a search of the brickyard will find lots of failures.
Brian

As with most forum reports, it's only the ones that have problems that post & generally they don't mention the mileage & how it's been treated. Some of the T4 vans over there have done several 100 thousands of MILES. Mine is 11 years old & perfect.

[Cousin]

Dang, I'll have to add that T4 diesel Transporter I had to the list
I know the clutch was changed once, but not the flywheel
Sold it at 360,000 ks
Never occurred to me it had a DMF

M

[jfoldbar]

I disagree Brian. Most T5 manual owners in this forum didn't have problem with the DMF.

quote from vw technician in sydney "they are absolute peices of %#@$, i had truck after truck of them come in with 20 and 30 k on on them"

i think the dmf failures are not reported on this forum because most were fixed under warranty, meaning people didnt really care.

[Transporter]

quote from vw technician in sydney "they are absolute peices of %#@$, i had truck after truck of them come in with 20 and 30 k on on them"

i think the dmf failures are not reported on this forum because most were fixed under warranty, meaning people didnt really care.

I know that you've had the T5 that you were very unhappy with, but that doesn't give you any right to make the things up and post it in here. Please, find me those posts in this forum about the T5's diagnosed and REPAIRED as a faulty DMF.

Don't assume when people posted on the net, here or in UK conversations like this "Oh, I THINK my DMF is on the way out, because I hear some noises while I'm starting my car" that they had a faulty DMF, because many times their "THINK" turned out to be something else.

What I see in the forums is that when people think that there is something wrong with their car they take the wild guess and after they get their car repaired, they don't go back to their original post and correct it. Then, you and others similar to you find it (very often several months later), read it, take it out of the contest and keep it in their heads as a correct information and then repost it somewhere else.

It would be great, if people would just post their own experience.

[klxnsw]

I do concur with reliability issues with transporters/mulitvans. I think its a real shame as i think we would all agree that apart from reliability issues they are a great preactical and versatile vehicle. I swear my wife thinks I am a nutcase, one minute i love the car .....the next I hate it....and am constantly putting my hand in my pocket for repairs.
I once had a dihatsu which travelled over 300,ks and all I did in that time was replace the clutch (apart from brake pads, tyres etc). Why can they not make cars relaible like this anymore?. I think that the 90's was the time when cars were most reliable. Where have they gone wrong? all I know if that someone were to build a van with the practiality of a transporter/multivan that was reliable and reasonably cheap to maintain, I would buy one in a heartbeat.

[jfoldbar]

It would be great, if people would just post their own experience.

by people im not sure if you mean me, or everyone, but i can share my own dmf experience since you asked for it.

brand new from showroom, drive for a few months and then theres a strange noise like a stick is caught under the car. because its new i want them to fix the noise.
the service centre had the car for 8 months to find the problem. 1 week in and 1 week out for 4 months, then 4 months strait. i can never be sure exactly what they done to it in that time time. they told me they replaced every single steering and suspension part and lots of other stuff too. they eventually tracked the noise down to one nut on the flywheel was the wrong tension. noise gone, but replaced with other just as annoying sounds.
i thought about getting them to fix the new sounds but since ive already wasted nearly 1 year of rego and insurance and needed another car(no courtesy car was provided) i thought i'll just drive it and see what happens.
in hindsight i wish i would have just left it there and got them to constantly fix it just out of spite. i lived with the so called dmf failure symptoms for the next 7 years, always wondering if it would go. surprising though it never did. that makes me wonder about the so called dmf symptoms.
i dont blame the actual guys at the service centre for taking so long to find a noise, i think they done the best they or any man could have, but i think the problem comes from further up the ladder, i.e. germany and the designers.

theres my dmf experience. no made up stories or nothing added on.



nissan have gone back to smf. so that would tell me that they are not really necessary.
K.I.S.S.

[jets]

nissan have gone back to smf. so that would tell me that they are not really necessary.
K.I.S.S.

My neighbour has a Nissan Navara & at around 80ks to 90ks had his 2nd clutch fitted [he gave it heaps]. The first clutch was on Nissan but they wouldn't come at a second. They told him that the flywheel was also badly worn & if he had them fit a SMF that the gearbox would rattle at idle. He wanted to save some money & didn't believe them so they fitted the SMF. Sure enough, the gearbox now rattles.

[Sunny43.5]

My neighbour has a Nissan Navara & at around 80ks to 90ks had his 2nd clutch fitted [he gave it heaps]. The first clutch was on Nissan but they wouldn't come at a second. They told him that the flywheel was also badly worn & if he had them fit a SMF that the gearbox would rattle at idle. He wanted to save some money & didn't believe them so they fitted the SMF. Sure enough, the gearbox now rattles.

Found this item about SMFversus DMF found it interesting .Dual Mass Flywheel
This also has now explained why after replacing the clutch in my T5 2.0 lt petrol recently the reverse is still very shuddery , forwards is ok , I only realised that my van may have also have the DMF as the photo was exactly as mine looked at time of removal . I could be wrong so I will just wait and see .PS the shudder doesn't bother me as I very rarely drive on the roads backwards. LOL !!

[SoVeReIgN]

+1 T4 TDI auto with destroyed transmission.

At 90ks. ~$4000 to fix.

[Sunny43.5]

I can better that T5 135000 auto gone $11000 ouch .